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1 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 146128 | ||
Hello Merv, 1) I should have added this verse to back my reasoning: Rom 5:13 (ESV) for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Because God had not yet given the commandment about murder Cain, though guilty of sin, it could not be counted against Cain. It had to be dealt with differently. 2) Total agreement. :-D 3) I haven't dealt with unclean being detestable to God because that is not stated until the Mosaic law. As background, I follow an historical, grammatical approach to Scripture. Basically, I look at what was said, when it was said, where it is in relation to other things being said, etc. This is why I argue so strongly that one cannot take the Mosaic law and superimpose it on anyone in Genesis. You have to look at what God revealed to his people at the moment or prior. Steve |
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2 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | swerv | 146131 | ||
Steve: Still you must explain Gen 26:5 if you argue there was not law before Moses. Another thing is the Jesusalem council did not mention the 10 comm. so gentiles are not obligated to keep them. Cain did evil, the people of Sodom were wicked (sexual immorality) and people of Noah's time were wicked. How is a God to judge them wicked without a standard. I still think your rational for debate is just to suit your position Merv |
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3 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | kalos | 146138 | ||
Gentiles not to keep 10 commandments? Merv: You write: "...the Jesusalem council did not mention the 10 comm. so gentiles are not obligated to keep them." There are 613 laws in the Torah (Pentateuch). As I understand it, not all of the 613 apply to all people in all times and places. For example, there are laws that apply only to women. Some apply only to the priests. Obviously civil laws applied to the people of Israel when they were in the land of Israel, from the time of Moses until 70 A.D. Does the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments still apply? All but one of them are repeated in the New Testament. Jesus places much emphasis on them. Paul in his writings speaks of them, as does James in his. If it is true that Gentiles are not obligated to keep the 10 commandments, then we would be "free" to commit adultery, lie, steal, murder, etc. Without the Law people would be either in idolatry or doing things that harm others. Again, I am not saying that we must keep the Law as a means of being saved. I've never said that. According to the Bible, no one was ever saved by keeping the Law. "The just shall live by faith." He who finds life will find it by trusting. matt517 |
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4 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | swerv | 147544 | ||
Matt: Yes we are not saved by the law but we are clearly instructed to keep the law by Jesus. Math. 19:17 Law does not save but does show our love for God ! Merv |
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