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1 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | DocTrinsograce | 146421 | ||
Dear Merv, Matthew 15:3 is talking about oral traditions (the Mishnah). See 2 Thessalonians 2:15 and 3:16 for contrast. Also, the word "traditional" in the way I was using it simply meant "commonly understood" or "commonly given." Hence, the commonly given response to our Sunday worship services is to commemorate the resurrection of Christ. This explanation dates to the very early church. Hebrews 4 implies a distinction between the day when God the Father ceased His work (verse 4, the seventh day of the week) and the day when Christ the Son ceased His work (verse 10, the first day of the week). As I pointed out earlier, this is an implication that appears to echo the commonly given explanation of the church. 1 John 2:4 is hearkening back to John 14:21. The "Him" in 1 John 2:4 is Jesus (see the context). (Scripture should always be used to explain scripture.) Christ clarified the Law. Furthermore, remember that He is, after all, "the Lord of the Sabbath" (Matthew 12:8, Mark 2:28, Luke 6:5). Merv, I do not say the following with rancor, but only by way of explanation: We see God's revelation as closed, and we look to the Scriptures as our sole authority. (As the old divines put it, "The supreme judge, by which all controversies of religion are to be determined, and all decrees of councils, opinions of ancient writers, doctrines of men, and private spirits, are to be examined, and in whose sentence we are to rest, can be no other but the Holy Scripture delivered by the Spirit, into which Scripture so delivered, our faith is finally resolved.") No matter how well intentioned or even knowledgeable she was, we do not see Ellen White as having greater authority than the Scriptures. Her teachings -- as is true of anyone's teachings -- either stand or fall in the light of the Word. In Him, Doc |
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2 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | swerv | 146816 | ||
Doc: Where is the one singl verse in the NT that commands that the Church worship on the 1st day of the week. If it is not int he scripture then it is based on tradition of man which the Bible clearly teaches against !!!! Merv |
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3 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | DocTrinsograce | 146821 | ||
Hi, Merv... Keep your e-shirt on, buddy! :-) The NT never gives an explicit command to worship on ANY day of the week. However, aside from the Hebrews chapter 4 reference that I've already given you, here are two other passages that give us a pattern by implication. "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them..." (Acts 20:7a) "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." (1 Corinthians 16:2) I've already talked to you about tradition, son. Your repeated use of that argument indicates that you are not listening to what is said to you. As brother Hank puts it, "That dog don't hunt." Remember, you don't have to agree with another person's conclusions just because you receive correction to your own faulty reasoning. (Proverbs 15:10) There is no loss of face in the response, "I stand corrected." In Him, Doc |
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4 | Hank - Diet ??? | Bible general Archive 2 | swerv | 147243 | ||
Hey Doc: You seem to maybe be offended for me not recognizing your arguement. I am here on this forum to discuss scripture and here views on scripture. If I hold strong views I think you must respect my passion and love for God to know Him better and learn His truths. I do not agree that there are three different answers to the 4th commandment of God. 1) Everyday can be a Sabbath 2) the 1st day is now the Sabbath 3) the 7th day is the Sabbath. I just want clear answers to my questions. Giving examples of things the disciples did on a certain does not provide evidence of a new Sabbath unless you can show me within those scriptures a command to recognize a new Sabbath day. Using these scriptures is a similar arguement used when people use Acts 10 - 11 to show all meats are now clean - even though in Is. 65:4 clearly states eating swine's flesh makes God angry. Is. 56 clearly shows that not ONLY Jews kept the Sabbath. Humm - there goes the arguement that only Jews were required to keep the Sabbath. I am sorry but to use examples of 1st day meetings is no evidence whatsoever of God changing His mind on what day He made Holy and sanctified as a day of rest which gives us the opportunity to worship Him, and do "good" - just as Jesus did in the NT even though confronted by the Pharisees. Also, Jesus and Paul clearly show us the real Sabbath was the one they kept as their "custom" was. Look forward to more discussion, In the love and truth of Christ, Merv |
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