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1 | How literal is the Bible? | Bible general Archive 2 | Hank | 135729 | ||
Interpretation has become synonymous with mere opinion. Responsible interpretation is based on exegesis but never on uninformed, subjective opinion. One hears the expression, "This passage of Scripture means so and so TO ME," thus implying that the passage has no intrinsic meaning but means whatever the reader wants it to mean. If the reader chooses to believe Darwin instead of God, he calls the creation account a myth. If he finds the account of Jonah a fish story too big for him to swallow, he calls it an allegory. If he is uncomfortable with the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ, he calls the gospel account symbolism. If he finds the Bible's laws against immorality too challenging to his lifestyle, he calls them applicable to the culture that existed at the time of their writing but inapplicable to our culture and our time. ...... Last week I had a discussion on Bible inerrancy with an ordained pastor of a so-called mainline denominaion. The man was a pro-choicer (meaning he endorsed the brutal murder of unborn children) and a gay-rights advocate. I asked him the meaning of the sixth Commandment, "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13). I was told that it pertained to the taking of human life, not the surgical procedure performed on a fetus. ..... Then I asked him what was the meaning of Scripture's condemnation of homosexuality in such passages as 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10. What this man told me was shocking. This man who stands in the pulpit with the responsibility to shepherd his flock told me that Paul was simply writing letters giving his opinions, and that he (Paul) had absolutly no idea that we would be reading his letters today and calling them Scripture. I walked away heavy of heart. I already knew that some churches have sunk to apostasy and fallen away, but, Doc and other Forum brothers and sisters in Christ, I had no idea of the depth of the fall. Pray that they will repent and turn to God. May God have mercy on them and us. --Hank | ||||||
2 | How literal is the Bible? | Bible general Archive 2 | Reighnskye | 135746 | ||
Hank, This may seem like an overly simple request here, but please define "exegesis". Often when I hear this word, it seems like some default method of interpreting scripture after the method of "sola scriptura", that may not necessarily involve the slightest interaction with the Holy Spirit. There are perhaps some who, in their belief that the Holy Spirit no longer writes scripture today, also feel that the Holy Spirit no longer interprets scripture for us either. Miracles and direct revelation have passed, as they say. One could possibly say, for example, that this particular pastor in your story needed a bit more of the Holy Spirit than exegesis, when interpreting the scripture. It seems that any unsaved individual can use man-made methods of exegesis, and therefore arrive at very naturalistic results. The scriptures may be merely intellectually interpreted, without any spiritual inspiration from above. What we then often lack as a result is a spiritual understanding and application. 1 Corinthians 2 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, 13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. 14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. (NAS95) - One may even infer that the Pharisees themselves were the best exegeticists. The problem, however, is that even the finest exegeticism becomes well nigh worthless, without the direct revelation from the Holy Spirit. And the result of these darkened and naturalistic exegetical interpretations is evidenced in the lack of spirituality conveyed. 1 John 2 26 These things I have written to you concerning those who are trying to deceive you. 27 As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him. (NAS95) - We can pay any unsaved seminary scholar to teach us exegesis, and to give us exegetical interpretations. In fact, we can even perform exegesis on any secularly-derived text, with no reference to the bible. But what does that prove? I suggest that naturalistic methods of exegesis are not nearly enough, when it comes to spiritual discernment of the scriptures. Indeed, it falls far short. - Luke 24 45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, (NAS95) Luke 24 32 They said to one another, "Were not our hearts burning within us while He was speaking to us on the road, while He was explaining the Scriptures to us?" (NAS95) Acts 8 29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, "Go up and join this chariot." 30 Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?" 31 And he said, "Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?" And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. 32 Now the passage of Scripture which he was reading was this: "HE WAS LED AS A SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER; AND AS A LAMB BEFORE ITS SHEARER IS SILENT, SO HE DOES NOT OPEN HIS MOUTH. 33 "IN HUMILIATION HIS JUDGMENT WAS TAKEN AWAY; WHO WILL RELATE HIS GENERATION? FOR HIS LIFE IS REMOVED FROM THE EARTH." 34 The eunuch answered Philip and said, "Please tell me, of whom does the prophet say this? Of himself or of someone else?" 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this Scripture he preached Jesus to him. (NAS95) - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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3 | How literal is the Bible? | Bible general Archive 2 | Hank | 135766 | ||
Reighnskye - If I counted correctly, you used the noun "exegesis" or its verb form nine times in your post after asking me to define it. If you already knew what it meant, why did you ask me to define it? If you didn't know what it meant, should you be using it even once in a post, much less nine times? I don't use words unless I know what they mean. ..... As my great grand-father George used to say, "Wet birds rarely fly at night." ...... Who's on first? --Hank | ||||||
4 | How literal is the Bible? | Bible general Archive 2 | Mommapbs | 135770 | ||
Hi Hank - "Wet birds rarely fly at night." How does being wet interfere with a bird's sight at night? (I'm blonde) I have no idea what this means! Please explain. mommapbs |
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5 | How literal is the Bible? | Bible general Archive 2 | Hank | 135774 | ||
Mommapbs - Hey, there. You're back! (Now isn't that an astute observation). Dear heart, don't ask me what I mean by "Wet birds rarely fly at night." I don't know. I'm just trying to keep in step with the Forum. It doesn't seem to be a requirement any more to post things that mean anything or make sense. I was just testing my ability to post gibberish -- trying to get the hang of it, you know. How did I do? ..... By the way, do you know what kind of grades Mediterranean made in school? (He made Seas). --Hank | ||||||
6 | How literal is the Bible? | Bible general Archive 2 | Mommapbs | 135789 | ||
Thanks Hank - you are indeed an astute fellow, very uncharacteristic of you to post gibberish, perhaps that's what caught my eye . . .however re: Mediterranean . . . being from the South an all,I'm wondering about your use of the Kings's English here. . . we make friends, we make art and we make cakes, but grades? Aren't we given those? Us Northerners would say he "got" Seas rather than "made" them. Perhaps we could start some lengthy thread on this discussion? Thanks for the welcome back! momma |
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7 | How literal is the Bible? | Bible general Archive 2 | Hank | 135795 | ||
Momma - As you know I'm a denizen of the Arkansas Ozarks and we have our own language. Called Arkanese, it isn't as arcane as Forumese of course, but you Yanks do occasionaly have trouble with it. When we say "y'all" its singular in form; the plural is "all y'all' and so on. As for Mediterranean, he was so mediocre that he actually "made" them give him Seas, so therefore I suppose one could say that he "got" Seas. Oh my, semantics is so tedious, ain't they? Y'all take care now, hear? --Hank | ||||||