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1 | baptismal regeneration - true or false | NT general Archive 1 | New Creature | 50646 | ||
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2 | baptismal regeneration - true or false | NT general Archive 1 | stokeyhk | 51378 | ||
Apollos "knew only the baptism of John." 'He taught about Jesus accurately in Ephesus.' Twelve men in Ephesus were baptized in "John's baptism." "They were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" and received holy spirit only afterwards! (Acts 18:24-26; 19:1-7) 1 Peter 3:21 states: 'Baptism saves you.' Its a "search for a good conscience" toward God. (TCNT) Clearly, then, the baptism must be valid and the good conscience maintained. (Matthew 3:1-8; 24:13) Stokeyhk. |
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3 | baptismal regeneration - true or false | NT general Archive 1 | New Creature | 51437 | ||
Dear stokeyhk The case you stated is true however that was not always the case through-out Scripture, for clearly in Acts chapter 10 we read of those who received the Holy Spirit before being baptized. I will post the text for you. Ac 10:44 ΒΆ While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. We need to make sure we take each situation mentioned in Scripture, and then come to a proper understanding. |
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4 | baptismal regeneration - true or false | NT general Archive 1 | stokeyhk | 51462 | ||
Its worth noting that the situation in Ephesus was some time after Acts 10. We do need "a proper understanding" of the situation in Acts 10. There's no record that anyone else received holy spirit before they were baptized, not even Jesus! Acts 1:8 says: "You will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea [Acts 2:1-8:3] and Samaria [Acts 8:4-40], and to the ends of the earth [Acts 9:1-10:48]." (Matthew 16:19) Cornelius and "all his family were devout and God-fearing." He "prayed to God regularly." His prayers had "been recorded" before God. (Acts 10:4, Weymouth) Why only "recorded"? Because not baptized yet? Peter was being prepared for this new feature in God's purpose. He stayed in Joppa "for some time with a tanner" named Simon. He was taught by means of a vision from God; he said: "Its against our law for a Jew to associate with [an uncircumsized] Gentile or visit him." (Acts 10:28) "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation." Note verses 45 and 48. Yes, "baptized in the name of Jesus Christ." All these events clearly showed that God was now accepting Gentiles. (See Acts 11:1-18; 15:1-29) Stokeyhk. |
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5 | baptismal regeneration - true or false | NT general Archive 1 | New Creature | 51479 | ||
You stated "There's no record that anyone else received holy spirit before they were baptized" I would just like to say that I personally received the Holy Spirit first and then became baptized afterwards, just like in Acts chapter 10. Not only that but thousands upon thousands like myself experienced the same order of events in their new found faith. Are we to say that the people in Acts chapter 10, or the many people today who have experienced an Acts chapter 10 conversion, were not truly converted? Through our inward witness we Acts chapter 10 converts know that we now belong to Him just as Romans 8:16 and other such verses say; Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: Maybe your experience differed from others, but don't discount the conversion of others whose experience differs from yours or others. Lets not limit the operations of the Holy Spirit. |
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6 | baptismal regeneration - true or false | NT general Archive 1 | stokeyhk | 51578 | ||
Sorry, I evidently didn't make myself clear. I should have said: "There's no record that anyone else was 'born again' by God's spirit before they were baptized." (Matthew 3:17; Mark 14:36; Romans 8:15; Galatians 4:6) Clearly, many others in the Bible received God's holy spirit before the time of John the Baptist. (Numbers 11:17; 1 Samuel 16:13; Luke 1:15) Proverbs 1:23 and Acts 5:32 are worthy of note: "Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you." 'God gives his holy spirit to them that obey him.' (King James Version) A question for you: What gives evidence that God's holy spirit dwells in a Christian? (2 Timothy 1:14) Stokeyhk. |
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