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1 | Do Jesus and Paul agree on salv by faith | NT general Archive 1 | reilly1041 | 81153 | ||
I am a relatively new Bible reader and one big question keeps hitting me -- I see a difference between Jesus' words on heaven and Paul's. Let me explain... Paul says "If you confess w/your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. (Rom 10:9, TLB) And also, "For it is by grace you have been saved thru faith, and that not of yourself, it is the gift of God, not of works..." (Eph 2:8, NKJV) But I don't see Jesus talking that way in the gospels. For example, in Mt 7:21, Jesus said that "Not all people who sound religious are really godly. they may refer to me as Lord, but they still won't enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The decisive issue is whether they obey my Fathers in heaven". And again, in Mt 5:22, He says "if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell". See also Luke 12:35-49, where He discusses being prepared about his coming. If the servant isn't behaving well, the master will tear the servant apart and banish him. These statements of Jesus seem to indicate that much more than simply announcing and believing in your heart that Jesus is the Son of God is required for the Kingdom of Heaven. He clearly states that the key issue is whether you obey his Father in heaven. Is this to be interpreted as living a good life, following the commandments, etc., as additional requirements for heaven? Does that jive w/Paul's statements? Note that it's not that I'm against trying to live a good, holy life, but this seems to lead down the road of salvation by faith-and-works. Please help me understand this better, because my life was changed by Eph 2:8-9, but this is confusing me. Thanks! |
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2 | Do Jesus and Paul agree on salv by faith | NT general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 81154 | ||
Part III " What else did St. Paul say about faith and works? In Galatians he speaks of "faith working through love." But in 1 Corinthians he makes clear the primacy of love working for the good of others. "If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing…So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love." (1 Cor. 13: 1-3, 13) The last five chapters of St. Paul's letter to the Romans seem to get very little attention in the controversies over justification and salvation. That may be because his pastoral advice on how to live together in a harmonious Christian community is less exciting and perhaps more demanding in its practical application than the seemingly more lofty issues of justification and salvation. But it is in the day today life of the community that we are expected to "work out your own salvation in fear and trembling; for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure." (Phil 1: 12-13) For St. Paul assures us that in the end "God's righteous judgment will be revealed. For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury." (Rom 2: 5-8) What must we do to be saved? This was the question of those to whom Peter preached on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2: 37, and also the question of the Philippian jailer of Paul and Silas in Acts 16:30. Peter's response was: "Repent and be baptized"! Paul's response was: "Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household." But then in order that he might believe Paul at once spoke the word of the Lord to him "and he was baptized at once, with all his family." Why not just believe in the Lord Jesus? Why baptism? Because baptism is the physical sacramental means by which God's saves us spiritually and bodily even to the resurrection of our physical bodies. Baptism is the command of Jesus in Matthew 28: 19-20. Baptism is the means by which God effects our salvation by incorporating us into the body of Christ. (1 Peter 3:21; Romans 6) What Did Jesus Say on the Subject? "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." (John 3: 5) This refers to baptism. We know this from the context by what follows in John 3:22. "But he who endures to the end will be saved." (Matt. 24:13) " Not everyone who says to me, ' Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father. On that day many will say to me 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and cast out demons in your name and do many mighty works in your name?' And I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me you evil doers.' (Matt. 7: 21) "Then the King will say to those at his right hand, 'Come O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you visited me...'" (Matt. 25:31-45). In the final analysis Jesus is Lord and He is the Word and He will have the last word on the matter of justification and salvation for each and every one of us." © Emmaus Road Disciples |
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