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1 | Different "classes" within Heaven? | Rev 4:4 | D.D.1961 | 46480 | ||
I just read a book by Dr. Charles Stanley called Eternal Security. It is a very good book. However, one part puzzled me and I hope someone can help clear this up for me. I know that when a saved person goes to Heaven that they will be judged and some will receive crowns for the good things they did on earth. The book said this, but also mentioned that we may be treated differently than others in Heaven or have more "say so" in Heaven than others. Is this true? Also, it said that some may "reign and rule" with Christ, but others won't. HELP! D.D. | ||||||
2 | Different "classes" within Heaven? | Rev 4:4 | Scribe | 46481 | ||
Revelation 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. Revelation 4:6-7 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. Revelation 5:8-9 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; From the above passages we have the 4 beasts and 24 elders singing the same song.... Both groups say they are people delievered from every nation tribe and tongue, So we know that it is symbolic, that they are more than four in reality and more than 24 and that the numbers here speak of theological symbolism of such things as I will not go into in this post. Therefore if they are both redeemed saints and we know they are becuase thye say they are and we know they knew who they were. Then we should notice that they are seen as having seperate offices. Now either they have seperate offices as a matter of position in heaven as it relates to rewards, or it is only a representation of the same people who serve in both offices in heaven as the Lord Wills such as a rotating priesthood. I have not read Stanleys book and I would hope that the teaching is that the saint is eternally secure but the fornicator and drunkard, etc, that is living that way when he dies will not inherit eternal life. I never know any more what people think or mean when they say eternal security. The passage in I Cor 3 the context is that Paul and Apollos and any other minister of the Gospel and yes that includes all saints in some capacity, will have thier teachings and ministry works tried by fire, and some things because they are not of the Spirit of God and Lead by the Spirit of God that we did in the Name of God yet we were sincere and did not mean to be wrong, we will find those thing go poof in the fire of His Glory and the things that were truly lead by God and Of His Spirit are eternal diamonds and yield eternal rewards. This passage has nothing to do with christians who don't get victory over things like fornication in this life. Read it yourself and forget what you have heard and see if you do not see that the context is about what a minster preaches not about sinning. See that the wood hay and stubble are things that PAUL Apollos or any minister might Preach and teach. A good example would be a UPC minister who spends a lot of time trying to convince people to baptized over again in the "Name of Jesus" becuase the minister said the Father SOn and Holy Ghost. This minister will still go to heaven if that he believes in Christ and all, but all that time trying to get christians rebaptized will go poof in the fire of His Glory and only those that were born again as a result of his preaching the Gospel and that sort of thing will remain. |
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