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1 | Is the water the preached word of god? | Rev 21:6 | cem | 240108 | ||
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2 | Is the water the preached word of god? | Rev 21:6 | DocTrinsograce | 240120 | ||
Hi, cem... John the Revelator is quoting the Lord, who is employing the regularly used motif of water and thirst we see throughout Scripture (cf John 4:14-15; Isaiah 55:1; Joel 3:18, etc.). We are parched and thirsty with sin and fear of wrath, we long for grace and comfort (Psalm 42:1-2). Christ Himself is the fountain of living waters (Jeremiah 2:13). However, the preaching of the Word, or the Holy Spirit, or salvation are not individually intended here. Instead, our Lord speaks of the totality of that which is needed for spiritual life (2 Peter 1:3) for the redeemed -- for those He calls in the following verse (Revelation 2:17) overcomers and sons. In Him, Doc |
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3 | Is the water the preached word of god? | Rev 21:6 | Movingon | 240123 | ||
Concerning Eph. 5:26 Mommapbs asks: What is this "washing?" Of all the answers one thing is obvious. The Scriptures that explains what the washing is, is totally ignored. It seems to me the best and to the point is The Amplied New Testament which says: “…having cleansed her with the washing of water with the word,…” “With the Word”, is speaking of two things, not one explaining the other. To be explicit on baptism, Peter said to the Jews when they realized they had crucified and murdered their King: “…what shall we do?” Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38). Peter also explains baptism in 1Pet. 3:20-21. Paul the apostle speaks of sins being forgiven and his new birth when he was taken to Ananias who said to Saul of Tarsus who became Paul the apostle: “…you will be His witness to all men of what you have seen and heard. ‘And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts.22:14-16). May I kindly say: the washing above is the same washing Paul speaks of in Eph. 5:26. When speaking of the time of salvation of the believer Paul said to the Roman and Colossians churches: "Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection" (Rom. 6:3-5). When Paul speaks of being buried with Christ, he is speaking of emersion in water and as one comes out of the water they are raised by the Holy Spirit to new life like Christ who arose from the grave. “…buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with [Him] through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead” (Col. 2:13). Here it is plain that “through our faith” in the working of God we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit as we come up out of the water (grave). Paul in Acts 19:2-6 when speaking to some disciples of John the Baptist asked them if they had received the Holy Spirit and they said they didn’t know there was a Holy Spirit. He then baptized them in water and when he laid hands on them they received the Holy Spirit. Again, both water and Holy Spirit baptism is clearly seen. "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit” (1Cor. 12:13). It is understood that the above words of instruction from Peter and Paul will not be accepted by most evangelical Christians. However, it is more important to listen to the Word’s of Scripture since that is what we will be judged by, rather than what scholars and teachers say. Those who disagree with what is written here always bring up the following remark by Paul supposedly to prove that Paul did not teach water baptism. "For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect” (1 Cor. 1:17). But they always leave off the very thing that shows very plainly that Paul did teach water baptism and had baptized others but explains why he did not normally do it himself. "I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other" (1Cor. 1:14-16). Paul also baptized 12 disciples of John the Baptist. We have a plain and easy to understand case of water baptism with Philip and a eunuch when he preached Jesus to him (Acts 8:36-38). “Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, "See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?" Then Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him” (Acts 19:1-6). It is very plain here again that it was his faith in Jesus that brought about his salvation. It is certainly not being said that God will not save anyone apart from water baptism. I myself was born of the Spirit of God before water baptism. But it is plain that both Peter and Paul and Philip taught water baptism as a physical act of initiation. So often when one is confronted with Scripture about a simple and plain truth, they imediately say: “well I think;” it doesn’t matter what we "think". What matters is what the Word says? In His grace movingon |
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