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1 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | winningside | 171640 | ||
In Revelation 20:14 It says "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. I can not understand this in my mind somehow. If hell is a place of burning fire and people are already there, why would God then put them in the lake of fire or am I just missing something here? I am not trying to question God. I am questioning my own way of thinking. Thanks - winningside | ||||||
2 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | Searcher56 | 171641 | ||
God's day to you, People look at Luke 16:22-26 to say people are already there ... others say it is a parable. Searcher |
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3 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | winningside | 171729 | ||
Sorry, I must have worded my question wrong. What I am asking is: Some people say that Hell is a place burning with fire, others say it is the grave. If it is a place burning with fire and people are there now, why would God take you out of the fire of Hell to throw you in the "Lake of Fire" in Revelation 20:14. Thank you -winningside | ||||||
4 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | Morant61 | 171731 | ||
Greetings Winningside! Here is an older post of mine that deals with this question. I hope it is helpful. ********** Allow me to explain my point, but first let me emphasis that I do believe in an eternal punishment in Hell for the wicked. The only problem is that the KJV (along with several other translations) translates four different words as 'hell'. This leads to much confusion over who is in hell, when, why, ect... Here are the four different words: In Hebrew (Sheol) and in Greek (Hades, Tartarus, and Gehenna). Allow me to briefly describe each term. 1) Sheol: Hebrew only uses one word to describe the state of the dead. This word can simply refer to death or the grave in general or it can refer to the spiritual status of all the dead. Prov. 9:18 says of Sheol - "But little do they know that the dead are there, that her guests are in the depths of the grave." Thus, Sheol is a place where all the dead go. Ps. 9:17 says that Sheol is a place where the wicked go - "The wicked return to the grave, all the nations that forget God." However, even godly Jacob expected to go to Sheol according to Gen. 44:29 - " If you take this one from me too and harm comes to him, you will bring my gray head down to the grave in misery.?" And, Ps. 89:48 affirms that all men will go to Sheol - "What man can live and not see death, or save himself from the power of the grave? Selah" Thus, this Old Testament word is best translated as 'Death' or the 'Grave' and simply refers to the state of all men at death. It does not refer to what we think of as 'Hell' in the sense of an eternal place of conscience punisment. 2) Hades: This is the New Testament equivalent of Sheol. It has much the same meaning as did Sheol with one exception. That exception being that the New Testament fills the meaning out with the passage to which you refered. Thus, we discover in Luke 16:20-31 that there are compartments in Sheol/Hades. There is a place of punishment where the wicked go to await final judgement and there is a paradise side, Abraham's bosom, where the righteous go to await salvation. This paradise side is now empty. After the death of Christ, complete atonement was made for sin and all those who died 'in Christ' went to be with Him in Heaven. Notice that Jesus did not tell the thief on the cross that he would be with Him in Heaven today, becase Heaven was not available until after the resurrection of Christ. The wicked dead still go to the punishment side of Sheol/Hades and will remain there until the Great White Throne of Judgement. 3) Tartarus: This word is only found once in the Bible. 2 Peter 2:4 desribes it as a place where certain Angels were placed until judgement. Some believe that it may be a lower part of Sheol/Hades. 4) Gehenna: This word describes what we commonly think of as Hell. It is used 12 times in the New Testament and describes a place of punishment, fire, and condemnation. I believe that Gehenna is also refered to in Rev. 20:11-15, where it is called a 'lake of fire'. However, note that this passage teaches that those in Sheol/Hades will be judged and then place into the 'lake of fire'. Thus, no one is actually in Hell right now! This is part of the reason why it is unBiblical to say that Jesus descended into Hell after His death. He went into Sheol/Hades (or the Grave), where Scripture foretold that God the Father would not leave Him. He went to paradise (possibly the prison of 1 Peter 3:9), but there is not any Scripture which says that He went to Hell. *********** Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | Searcher56 | 171734 | ||
God's day to you, Tim, my dear bother and friend, As usual, I enjoy your posts. I think it is interesting, dare I say concerning that the KJV translates Sheol (Strong's 07585) grave 31 times, hell 31 times and pit 3 times. Can you share about the root of Sheol ... Shaal (Strong's 07592) which means to ask, enquire, borrow, beg? After my independent study, I found the following which gives the number of times a version translates a word into hell http://ecclesia.org/truth/hell.html ... I shake my head of how inconsistent the translations are within and between each other. Steve |
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