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1 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | winningside | 171729 | ||
Sorry, I must have worded my question wrong. What I am asking is: Some people say that Hell is a place burning with fire, others say it is the grave. If it is a place burning with fire and people are there now, why would God take you out of the fire of Hell to throw you in the "Lake of Fire" in Revelation 20:14. Thank you -winningside | ||||||
2 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | alanh | 171757 | ||
What happens after death In order to understand what happens to man after death, we must first investigate the origin, nature, and constitution of man himself. "What is man that thou art mindful of him?" Psa 8.4. There are but two possible answers: 1) Man is a mere animal who evolved from unknown ages past or 2) Man is a spirit-being who was created by an act of God. If the first is true, then all questions can easily be answered. The dead have ceased to be, and all who die will likewise become extinct. The Bible affirms the second to be true: "And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1.27). Formed from the dust of the earth...Genesis 2.7. A little lower than the angels,---crowned with glory and honor Psalms 8.5. Man is a compound being. He had a created material body and an inbreathed part by Jehovah. There is a big difference between man and animals. The whole nature of man is described as body, soul, and spirit. "And the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved entire, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" 1 Thessalonians 5.23. Body---fleshly or material part Soul----sometimes refers to the physical life : Psalms 78.50 "did not spare their soul from death." sometimes refers to the whole man: Acts 2.41 "...added about 3000 souls...." The word "spirit" when denoting the human entity, is a specific term and designates that part of us is not susceptible of death and which survives the dissoulution of the body, whereas "Soul" is a generic word and its meaning must be determined, in any given instance, from the context in which it appears. It may refer to "a person" to "animal life" intellectual nature in contrast w/ higher spiritual nature and lower physical nature" or "as a synonym for the never-dying spirit of man." Soul and spirit are sometimes used interchangeably: "...You will not leave My soul in Hades" Acts 2.27 and Luke 23.46 "...into Thy hands I commend My spirit." Scripture often refer to man as body and soul or body and spirit, rather than the three-fold division, meaning that the soul and spirit are one and the same entity: Romans 8.10 "And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness." 1 Corinthians 7.34 "... she may be holy both in body and in spirit..." Daniel 7.15 "As for me, Daniel, my spirit was grieved in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me." Zechariah 12.1 "The burden of the word of Jehovah concerning Israel. Thus saith Jehovah, who stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him" Job 32.8 "But there is a spirit in man, And the breath of the Almighty giveth them understanding." Man, then is a spirit enshrined in a body, the spirit being the true self. The Bible teaches that the spirit of man, being the offspring of God, is like its Father and immortal. "God is Spirit" John 4.24 "God is the Father of spirits..." i.e. "our spirits" Hebrews 12.9 "We are the offspring of God" Acts 17.29. By our body we are allied to earth. By our spirit we are in the likeness of God. The fact that man's soul came not from the dust, but from the eternal God, justifies belief in the immortality pf the soul and its survival at the body's dissolution. |
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3 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | alanh | 171758 | ||
What Is Death Physical death is the separation of the spirit from the body (Eccl 12:7; James 2:26). The Bible does not say the spirit is dead w/out the body but that the "body is dead w/out the spirit." The spirit does not die. The spirit departs the body at death (Genesis 35:18). Death is described as "giving up the ghost" (Genesis 25:8). On the cross Jesus said "into Your hands I commend My spirit" (Luke 23:46). Paul spoke of death as a departing in 1 Timothy 4:6 and Philippians 1:23-24. The miracle of bringing a person back to life in Biblical times was simply the returning of the spirit to the body. Elijah prayed that the son of the widow of Zarephath might be restored to life. "I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again... and the soul of the child came into him again and he revived" 1 Kings 17.21-22. David did not consider his dead child non-existent (2 Samuel 12.23). That the dead continue to live is further emphasized by Christ when He said to the dying penitent robber, "To-day shalt thou be with me in Paradise" Luke 23.43. The spirits disembodied state between death and the resurrection is taught in the account of the transfiguration of Christ w/ Moses and Elijah (Matthew 17.1-8). He appeared and talked w/ them. Moses had been dead 1500 yrs and his body buried in an unknown grave. Yet both he and Elijah were still in existence, retaining their personal id and individuality. Mark 12.26-27 "But as touching the dead, that they are raised; have ye not read in the book of Moses, in the place concerning the Bush, how God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead, but of the living..." Are The Dead Conscious What is the condition of the soul after death and before the resurrection? Is the departed soul conscious? Read carefully Luke 16.19-31. Two great facts can be learned from this teaching: 1) death is not extinction; the spirit survives the dissolution of the body, 2) disembodied spirits are conscious between physical death and the resurrection, and either happy or miserable, depending upon the life they lived on earth. Eccl 9.5 is often used to prove that the dead are unconscious. This passage has reference solely to what the dead can know or do "under the sun," that is in the world they once lived. After death ones activity ceases on earth therefore he knows nothing about what is happening on earth. Where Are The Dead Where is the spirit after it leaves the body. The soul is not in the grave w/ the body, nor does it hover near the grave nor has it enter some other body. Any idea of transmigration or reincarnation of souls is at odds w/ Biblical teaching. The Bible says: “…the spirit returneth unto God who gave it” (Eccl 12.7). Where then do the souls go at death? Is it to their eternal abode or to some intermediate abode? Matt 25.31-46 describing the final judgment says: “Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world…Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire…And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous into eternal life.” Hence, souls do not enter their eternal state, either heaven or hell, at the moment of death. The place where all disembodied spirits dwell between death and the resurrection is Hades. In Luke 16.23 the spirits of both Lazarus and the rich man were in Hades. “And in Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.” In Acts 2 we learn the spirit of Jesus went to Hades at His death. “For David saith concerning Him…because Thou wilt not leave My soul unto Hades.” When a man dies his spirit goes to Hades, his body to the grave. Hades is divided into compartments. Paradise (abode of the righteous) and Tartarus (abode of the wicked). At the resurrection all will come before Jesus for judgment then sent to their final destiny heave or hell. Four words translated “hell” in the KJV of the Bible: 1) Hades – The place to which all spirits go at death, regardless of moral character. Signifies only the region of disembodied spirits. The grave denotes only the receptacle of the body. 2) Gehenna – denotes the final abode of the wicked, the hell of fire. Used 12x in the Greek NT. 3) Tartarus – Only 1x in Greek NT, 2 Pet 2.4. The compartment of Hades occupied by the wicked between death and the resurrection as they await final judgment. This is where the rich man was in Luke 16. In this place he suffered torment. Although he was in anguish he was not in Gehenna (cf. 2 Pet 2.9). 4) Sheol – An OT word translated “hell” (in the KJV) parallels the Greek term Hades. Both mean the unseen realm of departed spirits. |
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4 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | DocTrinsograce | 171766 | ||
Dear Alanh, Over the years we notice that some forum participants prefer to use the words of others rather than invest the time, energy, and effort in smithing their own words. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. For example, bringing a particularly well written quote from someone with greater authority than our own can often be a valuable exercise for us all. Of course, when we fail to attribute to the rightful owner the words we use, it becomes a different matter. This is what is called plagiarism. Plagiarism is a fancy word for stealing. Its a bit worse than that, however, because it is also an effort to elicit admiration for prowess of intellect, creativity, and academic industry that rightly belongs to another. Consequently, this sort of behavior is rooted in violations of at least two and more probably three of the Ten Commandments; i.e., it is sin. Alan, nothing rooted in sin will bring benefit, either to ourselves or to those around us. On the contrary, underhanded behavior can often detract from the argument. I certainly understand your tenacious and unyielding embrasure of Campbellism. That is your right. I doubt, however, that even folks in the group known as the "Church of Christ" would want you to promote their denominational perspective in anything but an honest and forthright fashion. Some of them might even take umbrage at your using their words as your own. Please, in the future, show greater respect for the Lord, the Lockman Foundation, and your fellow forum members by employing the highest standards of intellectual honesty that you can muster. Take the following aphorism from a man who knows wells from his own bitter, past experience: Character is more easily maintained than restored! In Him, Doc |
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5 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | alanh | 171780 | ||
Doc, I appreciate your concern, but as of yet I have not plagiarized. If you believe I have then please by all means state the work from which I plagirized. |
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6 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | Morant61 | 171783 | ||
Greetings Alanah! The exact text of your post can be found at: http://www.mwchurchofchrist.com/pages/articles/aftdeath.htm It is copywrited by the Mineral Wells Church of Christ. Do you hold the copywrite on this material? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | DocTrinsograce | 171785 | ||
...of course, someone else might not hesitate to post the URL. :-) | ||||||
8 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | Morant61 | 171787 | ||
Sorry! ;-) p.s. to all - If you ever think that your child, or someone else, may have 'borrowed' someone else's work, simply pick out a distinctive sentence and using quotation marks, enter it into your search engine. Usually, you will find the work 'borrowed' right away. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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9 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | Hank | 171793 | ||
Hi Tim: Of course the suspected "borrowing" of someone else's work could turn out to be pure "coincidence," wherein two minds just happened to produce two identical pieces of creative work, as illustrated by this story my favorite English professor told me long ago. This professor, as part of a course in creative writing that he was teaching, assigned each member of the class to compose an original poem and read it to the class at the next session. On the appointed day, a young lady stepped up and read her poem to the class. The professor immediately recognized the poem as being a published work of celebrated poet Edna St. Vincent Millay. After class he summoned the young lady to his office and from his library picked a volume of poetry, turned to the poem and read it aloud to the young lady -- the very poem she had just read in class claiming that it was her own original composition. "What have you to say to that, young lady?" asked the professor. The young student squirmed in her seat and asked coyly, "Can I help it if Edna St. Vincent Millay and I happened to think up the same poem?" This incident, according to my professor who, until his death a few years ago, remained one of my closest friends, is true. It happened in his class. --Hank | ||||||
10 | Hell/Lake of Fire | Rev 20:14 | DocTrinsograce | 171795 | ||
Well, you know, Brother Hank, there are, after all, only a finite number of words and a finite number of combinations in which they can be arranged! :-) Good anecdote, by the way! |
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