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1 | torment in hell annihilation in the lake | Rev 19:20 | allisraelsaved | 241178 | ||
is it possible that the beast and the false prophet are kept alive in a devouring fire in the lake of fire, by the power that satan had given them. and they wont be destroyed until satan is thrown into the lake of fire which is the same type of fire that comes down from heaven. then with satan destroyed no more power so the beast and the false prophet are destroyed. |
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2 | torment in hell annihilation in the lake | Rev 19:20 | EdB | 241179 | ||
You used a interesting term "is it possible that the beast and the false prophet are kept alive in a devouring fire in the lake of fire" No where in scripture is the Lake of Fire described as a devouring fire. In fact just the opposite, punishment like life in Christ is always described as eternal. Also Satan does not possess the power of life and death Christ does. So no it is not possible Satan kept the beast and false prophet alive. |
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3 | torment in hell annihilation in the lake | Rev 19:20 | allisraelsaved | 241205 | ||
satan does not give life to the beast and the false prophet, but satan gives them POWER and it is this POWER that keeps them alive. So satan is not creating life because the beast and the false prophet are cast ALIVE into the lake of fire |
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4 | torment in hell annihilation in the lake | Rev 19:20 | EdB | 241206 | ||
You are trying to make the case of total annililation. To do it you need a way to explain extra-Bibically why the beast and false prophet were mentioned in a present after being thrown in the lake of fire. You are giving credit for this to Satan. That is a dangerous position to take. First no where in scripture does it suggest Satan has the power to sustain life. Secondly because Jesus holds the keys of Death, Hell and the grave. Jesus controls life not Satan. Thirdly Satan's ilk is to deceive how better to deceive people than convince them eternal punishment for the rejection of Christ isn't valid. Satan does not have the power to keep anyone alive either here on earth or in the Lake of Fire. Since the beast and the false Prophet are alive in the Lake of Fire proves scripture that tells us our spirits are eternal. We live eternally with Christ because of our belief in Him or we live eternally in damnation because of our rejection of Jesus. Do not add to scripture. |
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5 | torment in hell annihilation in the lake | Rev 19:20 | Beja | 241207 | ||
EdB, I'm not an anhilationist but just to be fair, if you are referring to Rev 20:10 there is not actually a present tense verb there in the greek. The verb is left implied. In Christ, Beja |
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6 | torment in hell annihilation in the lake | Rev 19:20 | EdB | 241208 | ||
Actually I didn't mention verb nor did I mention any particular verse in my last reply. But if we go to verse Revelation 20:10 you mentioned (NASB) 10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. I think the words tormented day and night forever and ever paints a fairly vivid picture of eternity. Don't you? I also think the Greek word kai which is translated also suggests the Beast and false prophet are present when Satan is thrown in. Interestingly Allisraelsaved was not challenging the wording or verb tense of scripture. Allisraelsaved point was only who was keeping the false prophet and the beast alive. I find your comments interesting and causes me to wonder why you felt complied to make them. |
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7 | torment in hell annihilation in the lake | Rev 19:20 | Beja | 241209 | ||
EdB, You said: "To do it you need a way to explain extra-Bibically why the beast and false prophet were mentioned in a present after being thrown in the lake of fire." I took the "in a present" part to be referring to a present tense, and in the context of your post it sounded to me like you were trying to refer to Rev 20:10. I'm not sure where else you would be referring to. If I misread you I apologize. I'm not suggesting in any way that Rev 20:10 teaches anihilation. I personally believe scripture teaches eternal torment. As for my motive it was as I said, "just to be fair." I thought you were saying he needed to explain a present tense verb there, when there isn't actually one to be explained. In Christ, Beja |
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