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1 | Interpret Jude1:23 - hate sinners shirt | Jude 1:23 | Radioman2 | 83586 | ||
"Hate my shirt?" NASB Jude 1:23 " . . . hating even the garment polluted by the flesh." AMPLIFIED Jude 1:23 " . . . loathing even the garment spotted by the flesh and polluted by their sensuality." Zechariah 3:2-4 English Standard Version (ESV) And the LORD said to Satan, "The LORD rebuke you, O Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this a brand plucked from the fire?" Now Joshua was standing before the angel, clothed with filthy garments. And the angel said to those who were standing before him, "Remove the filthy garments from him." And to him he said, "Behold, I have taken your iniquity away from you, and I will clothe you with pure vestments." |
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2 | Interpret Jude1:23 - hate sinners shirt | Jude 1:23 | Just Read Mark | 83590 | ||
Hi Radioman. The Zechariah text is particularly good, as it includes - not only the shirt image - but also the bit about the "brand from the fire." That seems to confirm that the text was in Jude's mind. I guess the reason I raised the issue was that there seems to be contempt in the tone. To hate "even the garment" --- the garment polluted by the person --- seems to imply a contempt of the person. Eugene Peterson's paraphrase seems to take a "love the sinner, hate the sin" approach: "Go easy on those who hesitate in the faith. Go after those who take the wrong way. Be tender with sinners, but not soft on sin. The sin itself stinks to high heaven." Is that really what the text is saying, or is that softening the violence out of it somehow? How do we know when the "mercy mixed with fear" approach applies? |
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3 | Interpret Jude1:23 - hate sinners shirt | Jude 1:23 | Radioman2 | 83591 | ||
"Be tender with sinners, but not soft on sin." - - - - - - - - - - - - - Just Read Mark: THE MESSAGE "Be tender with sinners, but not soft on sin." I would say this paraphrase gets right to the heart of the meaning of the verse. Also, I find these two translations to be helpful in clarifying the meaning of Jude 1:22-23. GOD'S WORD Translation Jude1 22 Show mercy to those who have doubts. 23 Save others by snatching them from the fire [of hell]. Show mercy to others, even though you are afraid that you might be stained by their sinful lives. New Living Translation (NLT) Jude 1 22 Show mercy to those whose faith is wavering. 23 Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. There are still others to whom you need to show mercy, but be careful that you aren't contaminated by their sins. Grace and peace, Radioman2 |
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4 | Interpret Jude1:23 - hate sinners shirt | Jude 1:23 | Just Read Mark | 83608 | ||
Judgement and mercy. ..... Thanks: it is good to see those other renderings of the text. At first, Jude struck me as very harsh indeed -- describing people as "autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, uprooted".... wow: what an image. The language is vivid and brutal. I now see the thread of grace more clearly, particularly the word "mercy" (NRSV) that occurs again and again -- even in the openning address of the book: "May mercy, peace, and love be yours in abundance." Beautiful, how this seemingly formal opening ties into the core themes of the book. So, Radioman2: may mercy, peace, and love be yours in abundance! |
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5 | Interpret Jude1:23 - hate sinners shirt | Jude 1:23 | Radioman2 | 83610 | ||
Just Read Mark: I'd like to point out that "autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, uprooted" is used to describe false teachers -- those who "defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities" (Jude verse 8, KJV). Thank you for the beautiful benediction. Likewise, may God richly bless you in all things. Radioman2 |
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6 | Interpret Jude1:23 - hate sinners shirt | Jude 1:23 | Just Read Mark | 83703 | ||
False Teachers. Yes, Radioman2, the text is about people of faith who have turned away. But we are surrounded by people who fit this description, don't you think? People we need to reach out to. Of course, the corruptions of our era are a little different (I don't see too much licence happening during our love-feasts, for instance) but they are still present. So, it seems difficult to use such harsh language against people in our midst. Then again, let's not be sentimental. Loving, but not soft. |
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