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1 | Teaching and Being Taught | Deut 32:2 | DocTrinsograce | 243620 | ||
"For me, this kind of teaching [via metaphysical conviction] is an act of rebellion in this present age -- an attempt in some small way to convey the idea that the world is given, not constructed, and that meaning is to be found, not created. A good teacher must always be driven by conviction -- that the world is and that it has meaning, and that it is so much bigger than any one person can ever apprehend. "Teaching -- true teaching, not the mere imparting of techniques or learning potential -- is perhaps the most delightful calling and privilege in the world. It has its challenges, but it brings incomparable joys. The second greatest joy I have as teacher is seeing that flash of light in a student's eyes when a previously unknown or misunderstood concept suddenly becomes clear because of something I have said. And the greatest joy (albeit a rarer one) is the one I experience when a student writes or says something that indicates they have gone far beyond that which I, as a teacher, have been able to teach them. When they become greater, I delight that I become less. For such is the proper order of things, if teaching is truly about truth and not about power or making disciples. Yet neither joy is possible where there is no truth to discover and where the world is simply whatever the loudest and most aggressive among us care to claim that it is. Good teaching is a matter of metaphysics." --Dr. Carl R. Trueman, from his book "Teaching As Joyful Rebellion" |
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2 | Teaching and Being Taught | Deut 32:2 | EdB | 243621 | ||
Yet Jesus charged His disciples which He taught to make more disciples. Metaphysics is seen in the teaching of psychobabble that attached itself to so many seeker churches. Thanks but not thanks I will stick with the teaching of the greatest teacher Jesus! |
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3 | Teaching and Being Taught | Deut 32:2 | DocTrinsograce | 243636 | ||
Hi, Ed... That reminded me of some lines from a movie years ago: A very angry woman sputtered bitterly at an attorney, "Why... you... you... you are nothing but a quack!" The lawyer replied, indignantly, "That is slanderous! A quack is doctor. I, madam, am a schyster!" Psychobabble is a pejorative for the use of terms in popular psychology. Check it out in Wikipedia as you often do. (Of course, the irony in using terms that have anything do with psuche [Greek for mind/reason, where we get words like psychology] or, come to that, babble... hehe.) Metaphysics deals with the nature of reality. It may be of secondary or tertiary importance to you, but God's self-revelation (Hebrews 1:1-2) has a great deal to do with those things that are real; i.e., the truth. Now this all may be of even less importance to you, it is a bit -- though, not much -- cerebral (i.e., the God-given capacity of thought). In theology proper we address the reality of the nature of God; in Christology we address the reality of the nature of the Son; in anthropology we address the reality of the nature of man; in hamartiology we address the reality of the nature of sin; etc. etc. All of these subjects can be placed under the umbrella of what is true. Thus, we received from Moses much about the nature of God's righteousness and man's unrighteousness (the Law); but grace and truth were received from Jesus Christ. That's what John 1:17 states (cf v1:14b; Micah 7:20; . Can you see the metaphysics there? Now Dr. Trueman was actually resisting any of the experientialism, emotionalism, spiritism, or pietism that have come to displace Scripture. He actually expressed his pedagogy -- sorry, that means just means teaching -- in a very Scriptural fashion (John 8:32; Titus 1:9). Dr. Trueman's book is very good; sorry for not interjecting brackets to make plain some of his language. Speaking of "seeker churches" (perhaps you meant seeker sensitive churches?), my church planting class in seminary was taught by Ed Stetzer (remotely). He used Rick Warren as a source -- you know, the guy who wrote "A Purpose Driven Life?" I'm with you! No thanks! In Him, Doc 1. This post is biblically based and whenever possible, I have included Bible references to support it. 2. This post is not intended as a personal attack on the authority of the Bible or on other users of this forum. 3. This post is not submitted as an effort to foster divisiveness, ill-will, dissension or other disruptions to this forum. 4. I have carefully proofread my post and believe it represents my best efforts. |
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4 | Teaching and Being Taught | Deut 32:2 | EdB | 243641 | ||
My objection to Dr. Trueman’s quote was the statement, “For such is the proper order of things, if teaching is truly about truth and not about power or making disciples.†Matthew 28:19 (NASB) 19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Jesus expected His disciples to do greater things than He. John 14:12 (NKJV) 12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. So having a student do greater has nothing to do with disciple making, it is the natural progression of Christianity or should be. My objection to Metaphysical-ism in relation to religion is the concept that people can bring things into reality by merely speaking, much like God speaking creation into existence. Caught up in this metaphysical nonsense are people like Shirley McClain who once explained that her daughter’s death by burning to death was her fault because she voiced the concern of getting in a car accident, being trapped and burned to death. McClain’s taught that she viewed her daughter’s death as enviable because she had Metaphysically spoken it into existence. Pure hogwash! Psychobabble (a portmanteau of "psychology" or "psychoanalysis" and "babble") is a form of speech or writing that uses psychological jargon, buzzwords, and esoteric language to create an impression of truth or plausibility. The term implies that the speaker or writer lacks the experience and understanding necessary for the proper use of psychological terms. Wikipedia Metaphysics Metaphysics is a traditional branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the fundamental nature of being and the world that encompasses it, although the term is not easily defined. A person who studies metaphysics is called a metaphysician. Wikipedia Perhaps I would should have said Hogwash instead of Psychobabble. But I consider it babble by someone that does not know what they are talking about trying to get into someone’s head as an intellectual. |
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