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1 | Questions of Interpretation? | Deut 30:13 | bowler | 206593 | ||
Would you see this as a prophecy of Jesus walking on the water to be a testimony so that the disciples would get who He was? Would you think that the preceeding verses are talking about Jesus going up to heaven to get the testimony as in Romans 10:6, 7? And further do you think that Paul was putting into scripture in Romans something Moses did not intend to be there in Deuteronomy? blessings abound, bowler |
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2 | Questions of Interpretation? | Deut 30:13 | srbaegon | 206612 | ||
Hello bowler, It has nothing to do with Jesus walking on the water or going up to heaven. Both Moses and Paul meant that the word of faith was not something that had to be strived for or gained by some great work. Rather the word of faith is very near and needs to be only believed. Steve |
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3 | Questions of Interpretation? | Deut 30:13 | bowler | 206622 | ||
Steve I do appreciate your views. In Romans Paul says But the righteousness based o faith speaks as follows: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven (that is to bring Christ down), or 'Who will descend into the abyss?' (that is to bring Christ up from the dead). This is Paul quoting Moses in Deuteronomy 30 as Paul indicates in verse 5 of Romans 10. What Paul does is quote Moses and then ascribe a meaning to what Moses said and interpretes Moses' scripture as meaning "do not say who will ascend into heaven, that is bring Christ down from heaven, and do not say who will descend into the abyss, that is to bring Christ up from the dead". According to Paul what Moses said has everything to do with Christ going to heaven and rising from the dead. The NASB lists Deuteronomy as the source scripture, Paul quotes it and extrapolates on the "meaning". Of course I agree that the verses are talking about "the word of faith is near and needs only to be believed", which was also Moses' point in saying "don't go asking for someone to go get it for you" in Deuteronomy. Besides Moses says the exact same thing Paul says in Deuteronomy 30:14 word for word. What went around in my mind with this is that Jesus did go up to heaven and get it and He did descend into to death to go get it for us, because on our own we did not "just believe it because it needs only to be believed". Jesus did indeed "strive and gain by a great work" the "testimony to be believed". Jesus did indeed go across the water and create part of that testimony of "who should be believed in in order to be saved" as a part of His testimony to men of who He was in order that we would believe in Him. What still is not clear is how Paul could take what Moses was saying and give it a different take as if Moses was talkig directly about Jesus, which Moses may not have been doing. The Bible is clear as you say that we should not need all that, those great feats, but we did not believe until He did them. Just a thought. blessings abound, bowler |
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