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1 | What scripture is James referring to? | James 4:5 | retxar | 67819 | ||
What scripture is James referring to here? retxar |
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2 | What scripture is James referring to? | James 4:5 | EdB | 67821 | ||
retxar I think the best answer to this qusiton comes from John MacArthur and his study Bible. "4:5 Scripture says. A common NT way of introducing an OT quote (John 19:37; Rom. 4:3; 9:17; 10:11; 11:2; Gal. 4:30; 1 Tim. 5:18). The quote that follows, however, is not found as such in the OT; it is a composite of general OT teaching. The Spirit … yearns jealously. This difficult phrase is best understood by seeing the “spirit” as a reference not to the Holy Spirit, but to the human spirit, and translating the phrase “yearns jealously” in the negative sense of “lusts to envy.” James’ point is that an unbelieving person’s spirit (inner person) is bent on evil (cf. Gen. 6:5; 8:21; Prov. 21:10; Eccl. 9:3; Jer. 17:9; Mark 7:21–23). Those who think otherwise defy the biblical diagnosis of fallen human nature; and those who live in worldly lusts give evidence that their faith is not genuine (cf. Rom. 8:5–11; 1 Cor. 2:14)." MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed.) (Jas 4:5). Nashville: Word Pub. EdB |
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3 | What scripture is James referring to? | James 4:5 | retxar | 67828 | ||
Thanks Edb, I’ll have to study the idea of whether this is our “spirit” as MacArthur is saying, or the “Holy Spirit” as the NKJV, NASB, and NLT say. The “Holy Spirit” seems to make since to me now, as the “He” in verse 6 seems to be referring to the “Spirit” mentioned in verse 5. I will have to study further. Anyway, I was wondering if there was a possibility that James 4:5 may be referring to some writings of Paul, which Peter eluded to as being in the same category as "other scripture" (2Pe 3:15-16). Or if maybe the part in verse 5 that speaks of a scripture said in vain actually belongs with verse 4, and the statement "The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously", is a different thought, and thus where verse 5 should begin? retxar |
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4 | What scripture is James referring to? | James 4:5 | Morant61 | 67839 | ||
Greetings Retxar! The Bible Knowledge Commentary provides a concise summary of the thinking about this verse: ************************************************* This is one of the most difficult verses to translate in the entire letter. A very literal translation would be, ?Or think you that vainly the Scripture says to envy yearns the spirit which was made to dwell in you, but He gives great grace.? Is the ?spirit? the Holy Spirit or the human spirit? Is the spirit to be taken as the subject of the verb ?yearns? or as its object? Is ?envy? to be seen as ?unrighteous desire? or as ?righteous jealousy?? Numerous translations are possible: (a) ?The Spirit who indwells you jealously yearns [for you] and He gives more grace.? (b) ?He [God] yearns jealously for the Holy Spirit which indwells you and He gives more grace.? (c) ?The [human] spirit which indwells you yearns to envy, but He [God] gives more grace.? The NIV favors the latter idea: Or do you think . . . that the spirit He caused to live in us tends toward envy, but ?He gives us more grace?? (v. 6) Not only is the translation of the sentence a problem, but also the apparent indication that it is a part of Scripture poses difficulties. James? question, typically rhetorical, ?or do you think Scripture says without reason? (û«?oѧ, lit., ?vainly?), introduces the section. The ambiguous sentence that follows is not a direct quotation of any passage in Scripture. Rather than assume that James quoted some other sacred book, or some unknown Greek translation of the Old Testament, or that he simply referred to the general sense of Scripture, it seems more reasonable to assume that he focused on the quotation in verse 6, a statement clearly taken from Proverbs 3:34: ?God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble? (also quoted in 1 Peter 5:5). ************************************************ I like their suggestion that the quote may actually be in v. 6. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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