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1 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | dodoy | 219995 | ||
Hi, Doc. So sorry, you're in bed. Hope you get well soon. Thanks anyway for the answer from Rev. John Samson. He can really move mountains, by context. The Bible says that God "desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:4 NASB) Rev. Samson said: "God desires all kinds of people - even kings (or Emperors like Caesar) and the elite in society - people of every kind, to be saved." Please note: "people of every kind", NOT people from every kind. 1 Tim 4:10 (NASB) - "For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe." This verse says God is the Saviour of all men, which we could contextually render as "God is the Saviour of all [kinds of] men", as Rev. Samson instructs. One of these kinds as shown in verse 10 is "those that believe." The other kind is obvious: "those that don't believe." Now, contextually analyzing the verse, since God is the Saviour of all kinds of men, therefore, He is the Saviour of "those who believe" and also the "Saviour" of "those who don't believe." Question: If God did not save "those who don't believe", how can God be their Saviour? |
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2 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | lightedsteps | 220009 | ||
Hi dodoy God truly is the savior of all men every where for all time through the precious blood of Jesus Christ our lord. For this very passage states this truth plainly blatantly. Knowing full well as it says in Heb. 6:18 it is impossible for God to lie we must then have the full understanding that these passages are therefore true. 1Tim 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 1Tim 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. If we allow other scripture (I will use but two) to shed their light upon these scriptures and by so doing illuminate the truth to be found within. 1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. When we lay them alongside 1 Tim.2:4 and 1 Tim.4:10 they are all in certain points agreeing with each other. Each of which in there own way say "ALL" 1) all men to be saved 2) Saviour of all men 3) the whole world 4) once for all We can then say without a shadow of a doubt they do and are saying all men everywhere for all time as I have said before. This fact cannot be disputed for it does clearly say that. It appears as though all of the energy for an understanding of these scriptures has gone into the meaning of the words than the reality of what was accomplished for mankind. There is the key "MANKIND" for understanding. There is not a Christian alive that would deny Christ died for the sins of mankind. Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: We find then in these two verses God has provided the gift of everlasting life for the world. But at the same time we also see there is a stipulation for the effective appropriation of that gift "FAITH" The point of my whole recitation is this 1) It is Gods desire for all to come to the knowledge of the truth and the salvation He has provided. 2) The Gift of salvation has been provided for all of mankind. 3) All of mankind will not avail themselves of this salvation. It isn't a matter of ALL men WILL be saved. But that it has been provided for ALL men to become saved. Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: These last verses sum it up. We must have faith We must believe God is God will reward us when we seek Him We do not become His children until we accept Him as our Father Why would God grant the same salvation to those that have lived their lives without wanting Him as those that have sought Him? Lightedsteps |
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3 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | dodoy | 220010 | ||
Well said, Lightedsteps. My profile speaks something on this current topic. You may read it, if it is of any interest to you. Should you find anything therein that somehow is not in full agreement with your current belief, and you want further explanation from me, I would be very glad to further explain. Just let me know. Sincerely, dodoy. |
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4 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | DocTrinsograce | 220019 | ||
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