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1 | WHO is Hebrews 6:4-11 refering to? | Heb 6:4 | EdB | 144304 | ||
Doc You make it sound like so noble a pursuit yet it is not. To study Calvin or Arminian is to study external of the scripture since scripture does not address the mysteries both these schools of doctrine profess to have solved. You say let the debate rage until the Lord comes yet no one thing can be pointed at to have been so detrimenal to work of the Lord and to the church as this debate. Men have lost their homes, families and lives and some I fear their souls to this debate. Let rage? I pray it ceases today! You said shame to the seminary that failed to instruct this pastor in Calvinism. I say praise be to God, as I hope they took the time that would have been spent teaching such nonsense and used it to instructed him fully in what the scriptures do reveal. How sad would be the day if we produced pastors and teachers from our seminary well versed in the teaching of either man at the cost of time taken from theaching the truth ascribed in scripture. You say you follow no man but in fact you do. You follow a teaching of a man on a subject scripture along remains silent on. To say you follow any other than man is impossible on this subject. Joshua 24:15 (NASB) 15 "If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD." You quote Spurgeon yet you fail to comprehend what he was really saying. EdB |
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2 | WHO is Hebrews 6:4-11 refering to? | Heb 6:4 | srbaegon | 144315 | ||
Hello Ed, I think you are overly harsh here. Any seminary worth attending will investigate and compare the systematic theologies of various persuasions. There will also be an evaluation of the positions with Scripture in order to see why something is correct or incorrect. I also recognize that those who adhere to other theologies are brethren and fellow heirs with our Lord Jesus Christ in the glories to follow (which Spurgeon was getting at in Doc's quote). Steve |
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3 | WHO is Hebrews 6:4-11 refering to? | Heb 6:4 | EdB | 144319 | ||
Steve Systematic theology by definition is the methodical study of the all the teaching/events/concepts presented throughout the Bible and how they interact/interrelate to each other. How these ideas/teachings/events presented throughout the Bible come together with and merge with all the others, into one cohesive flow that reveals the truth about our Most Holy God and His precepts, statutes, ways, teachings, standards, laws, and commands. If during the study an idea or concept is presented or studied that conflicts with the rest of the concepts and ideas derived from the overall study of scripture then it can no longer be called systematic study but rather must be considered a biased study. There are many attempts at this in that there are many so called systematic theology books. They carry the flavor of their author’s favorite doctrinal positions. These are usually the preferred books of choice for school/colleges oriented in the school of discipline. However it they are viewed with even a most modest of open minds it is easy for the reader to determine which position the author supports and which he doesn’t. Of the very best systematic theology courses and course material that I have seen most made only passing mention of the specific theologies of either school of persuasion and focused instead only on what was scripturally supportable, systematically revealing God and His truths. Man throughout history has taken it upon ‘himself’ to answer for God in areas where God has remained silent. We can attempt to legitimize that by calling it theological study but in fact it is nothing more than the application of man’s reasoning/doctrine to the truths God has established. That in my opinion has no place in true systematic theology nor true seminary study. As to being harsh perhaps, but I find anyone that hopes that the these debates of man made doctrine that have so adversely effected Christianity and Christian church and the Study Bible forum in the name of Bible study continue, simply doesn’t have a concept of what is really at stake. That said, while you seemed grasped what Spurgeon I don’t think everyone has. If that seems harsh or unfair to you I’m truly sorry but having seen what these discussions on this subject has done in the past to this forum. I think we have to be harsh on those that want to reopen those wounds. Once more I remind everyone the ideas we are talking about have been debated without resolution for 500 years by the best religious/theological minds each generation has had to offer. In the past out come of all this has been devastation, with lost of relationships, property, family, country, and even life. My question to everyone is such a debate worth the cost? I say no. Particually when it does nothing for the kingdom of God. EdB |
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