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1 | Is man a 'triune' creature? | Heb 4:12 | inHzsvc | 2296 | ||
charis, this is the position I used to hold. the thing that gave me problems is, after man is saved, this theory would make him have body, soul, spirit, and Holy Spirit--4 parts. i do agree that man died in the fall and must needs be regenerated. you departed from the "i believe" and "i think" language that I used. you went to the "i am sure" and "I don't think" language. isn't it funny how we can't seem to get away from that. God bless. |
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2 | Is man a 'triune' creature? | Heb 4:12 | charis | 2310 | ||
Dear inhzsvc, Because we cannot 'know' until we meet Him, we can only believe. Even the best of Bible scholars have no recourse but to say, "I believe," or "I think" on many issues. Now, about your system, though the theology sounds right, the reality is hard to reconcile. If I am correct, you are saying that unsaved men are body and soul-spirit. Then, upon salvation they are body, soul-spirit, and Holy Spirit. Even in saved people, emotions and rationality are too fickle to be called 'perfected' or regenerated. "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness..."" Genesis 1:26 This 'image' and 'likeness' must be our soul and-or spirit, because God is not flesh. The spirit of man, regenerate or degenerate could still speak of this image. However, the soul, the emotion, the rational-irrational part does not seem like God at all! Saved or unsaved. My 'system' would explain the situation of a saved church, but all men sin. This would explain the battle that Paul waged within himself, as we also do. Our spirit is regenerated in Christ Jesus, but our soul is not totally under the authority of the Spirit of God. Regarding the 4-part man, the Holy Spirit is a 'Helper' to our spirit. In fact, the two are almost as one. I say almost, because, though we may be like Jesus, we will not become God. In any case these are my thoughts. It is different from what you proferred, and quite different from JVH0212 and John MacArthur. Mine is simpler and more elegant (neat), though the Bible does not say, "The soul and the spirit of man are seperate, dummy!" I think that much of the confusion comes from the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament. I does seem that the two are used interchangeably and arbitrarily. This could be because of the diference in the relationship between God and His people(?) However, in the New Testament the differences between soul and spirit are more evident, especially in the understanding of regeneration, the born again experience. Well, I am getting groggy. If I write any more, I may fall into stupidity. Good night. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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3 | Is man a 'triune' creature? | Heb 4:12 | kalos | 2323 | ||
Dear Charis: I do respect what you wrote to inhzsvc. Honestly, I think the closest one could come to making a factual disctinction between soul and spirit would be: To look up the original Greek and Hebrew word(s) translated "soul", and the one(s) translated "spirit". Then read what each original language word means, how it is used, and the different English words used to translate the orginal Heb or Gr word throughout the same Bible version. This might shed some light on the subject. Yours, JVH0212 (not dummy, just a little forgetful :-) ) | ||||||