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1 | Are angels sinful? | Heb 12:26 | Reighnskye | 135509 | ||
Are angels sinful? Here the author seems to attest the sinfulness of man, by declaring the comparison, that even the angels are charged with error and the heavens themselves are impure. If the angels are charged with impure error, as high as they are, then certainly humanity is even moreso corrupt, beyond even the corruption of angels. Job 4 17 'Can mankind be just before God? Can a man be pure before his Maker? 18 'He puts no trust even in His servants; And against His angels He charges error. (NAS95) Job 15 15 "Behold, He puts no trust in His holy ones, And the heavens are not pure in His sight; 16 How much less one who is detestable and corrupt, Man, who drinks iniquity like water! (NAS95) In contrast, I have often heard what I consider to be a popular heresy, that says angels lack free will, and are therefore incapable of making sinful choices. But if that were the case how could Satan and one-third of the angels then fall from the heavens? - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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2 | Are angels sinful? | Heb 12:26 | kalos | 135541 | ||
Question: "How could Satan and one-third of the angels fall from the heavens?" Answer: The Bible contains no description of the "fall" of some angels.* 'Angel. Superhuman or heavenly being who serves as God's messenger. Both the Hebrew malak [J; 'm] and the Greek angelos [a [ggelo"] indicate that these beings also act decisively in fulfilling God's will in the world.' (...) 'Although holy, angels could sometimes behave foolishly (Job 4:18), and even prove to be untrustworthy (Job 15:15). Probably these qualities led to the "fall" of some angels, including Satan, but the Bible contains no description of that event.' (...) 'In a material world that is also populated by good and evil spirits, the Bible teaches that the heavenly angels set an example of enthusiastic and resolute fulfillment of God's will. They acknowledge Jesus as their superior, and worship him accordingly.' --R. K. Harrison 'Bibliography. G. B. Caird, Principalities and Powers; A. C. Gaebelein, The Angels of God; B. Graham, Angels: God's Secret Agets; H. Lockyer, The Mystery and Ministry of Angels; A. Whyte, The Nature of Angels.' (http://bible.crosswalk.com/Dictionaries/BakersEvangelicalDictionary/bed.cgi) *The Bible contains no description of the "fall" of some angels. 'Revelation 12:4 '(1) And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven and (2) threw them to the earth. (3) And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, (4) so that when she gave birth he might devour her child. '1. "And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven" suggests a very powerful dragon. Continuing his figurative description of the composite great red dragon, John indicates that the dragon caused a third of the stars of heaven to be thrown down to earth. This suggests a supernatural element to this beast. Who or what the stars are is not explicitly defined. '2. "Threw them to the earth" has been interpreted by some to suggest that this refers to the fall of Satan and one-third of the angelic host. However, this conclusion is not supported by the text.' (http://www.revelationcommentary.org/12_chapter.html) |
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3 | Are angels sinful? | Heb 12:26 | xmikx | 135542 | ||
Kalos, you state that "the Bible contains no description of that event." But in Revelation 12: 7-9 it states '7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.(NIV) This states that Satan and his angels were hurled or fell to the earth where he reigns today. | ||||||
4 | Are angels sinful? | Heb 12:26 | EdB | 135553 | ||
If I may let me respond. The question now becomes is Revelation 12:7-9 talking about past or future events? If you read verse 10 it calls Satan the accuser of the brethren. Which we know this is Satan's job and that Jesus stands as our intercessor against his accusations. Therefore Satan must still have access to heaven thus Rev 12 is talking about future events not past. Verse 9 says he and his angels fell but again we have no idea how or when these angels became 'his'. It is possible that God had assigned Satan a third of the angels before Satan's rebellion and that the angels had to go with him actually having no choice. Or it can as some suggest that Satan was able to deceive them into following him, thus they had a choice. This passage simply does not clarify the issue. EdB |
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