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1 | Modern application of slavery texts? | Titus 2:9 | mark d seyler | 156524 | ||
Hi JRM, I think both positions are correct. Heb 13:5 "Let your conversation (lifestyle) be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." This would apply to the slave. James 4:17 "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." This would apply to the one in whose power it is to do something about an injustice. The Old Testament Law had much to say about helping your neighbor, and Jesus reinforced that in His teaching. Phi 4:11 Not that I speak as to need, for I have learned to be content in whatever state I am. 12 And I know to be humbled, and I know to abound; in everything, and in all things, I am taught both to be filled and to hunger, both to abound, and to lack. 13 I have strength for all things in Christ the One strengthening me. 14 Yet you did well in sharing my troubles. Paul demonstrates this attitude regarding his material needs. On his part, he is not complaining about his lack, and has learned to be content with it. On the part of others, they do well to help Paul as they can. As a slave, or a factory worker in Guatemala, or Pakistan, or wherever, making one dollar a day, I am to be content. If I can improve my situation, I should, and to use it for the Kingdom. As an oppressor, I must repent, and treat my workers fairly. As an exploiter, James said it best: James 5:4 "Behold, the wages of the workmen who have reaped your fields cry out, being kept back by you. And the cries of the ones who have reaped have entered into the ears of the Lord of Hosts." And really, James 5:1-12 And as a bystander, if I have the opportunity to help my neighbor in need, and don't, that is sin. What are your thoughts? Love in Christ, Mark |
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2 | Modern application of slavery texts? | Titus 2:9 | Just Read Mark | 156561 | ||
Well, Mark. I really am enjoying your responses. I must read James again, I think! Submission is a spiritual discipline that can deepen the heart in many ways, and bring a sense of peace in many ways. So often, we are in the struggle to achieve... as a self-employed person, I wonder how submission should be working more in my life. Submission to the Word, submission to the needs of others... I ll have to think about this. Sorry, that was a bit off topic (sort of, but not) To sum up: The slaves task is to submit, not struggle for a change in status. The masters task is to be just, which results in good treatment of the worker, and perhaps release from slavery (and today, certainly)... And the bystander is called to love his neighbour (the slave) and contend for his freedom in whatever way possible. I see wisdom in each part of this. I still think it puts the Underground Railroad in a bad light, because in that case, the slaves made the moves themselves. With support of others, certainly, but mostly by themselvesÂÂ. Unions are another interesting case, where the under-dog struggles to bring change for the betterment of his group. goodnight. |
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3 | Define slavery as Paul meant? | Titus 2:9 | kokoa | 156572 | ||
Mark, I don't think that the term slavery was used in the same text that you are speaking of. I could be wrong, we can be slaves to a lot of things and I think that is what he meant, any way yes we can be faithful thru it just as the slaves of the cotton fields held true to their belief in God and kept the faith that He would one day deliver them from slavery. So I guess I need to ask the question What kind of slavery was Paul referring to???? | ||||||
4 | Define slavery as Paul meant? | Titus 2:9 | Barach | 156579 | ||
Actually, in this case Paul was referring to actual servitude. The Roman Empire culture supported slavery and the instition of slavery even had the protection of the imperial government. As a matter of fact, Paul respected the legal right of others, including fellow Christian, to own slaves. Note the admonition from Paul: "Those who have believing masters are not to show less respect for them because they are brothers. Instead, they are to serve them even better, because those who benefit from their service are believers, and dear to them. These are the things you are to teach and urge on them." 1 Timothy 6:2 (New International Version) This fine attitude is often thought of as the Christian model for the "employee/employer" relationship. |
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5 | Define slavery as Paul meant? | Titus 2:9 | kokoa | 156831 | ||
Thanks Mark for that insight, I am just learning to translate what I am reading so if I come out of left field then you know why. Bear with me and I will understand it all one day. blessings!!! Kokoa | ||||||
6 | Define slavery as Paul meant? | Titus 2:9 | mark d seyler | 156834 | ||
Hi Kokoa, Please, bear with me! I might understand something eventually! ;-) Love in Christ, Mark |
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