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1 | Understanding being saved. | 2 Tim 2:15 | Liliesofthefield | 177986 | ||
You bring up a questioning that is greatly discussed among christians from all Evangelical denominations. Permit me to sumerize your question in this fashion: Can one lose one's salvation? And if so, then how would one go about losing one's salvation? It is not because we are born again Christians that it means we will never comit a sin again for the rest of our lives. But since we have already been covered by the blood of Christ who has died for us on the cross, when we do sin we go back to the cross, each day in fact. Back to Jesus on the cross to be covered by His blood. Yes one can lose one's salvation after being saved, but only under a very specific situation. The answer to that is found in Marc 3: 28, 29. We read in Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever, they shall blaspheme. Mar 3:29 But he, that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. The question then begs to be asked, Why so then are all sins foregiven except the blaspheme against the Holly Ghost? Why is the sentence for such a sin, as the blaspheme against the Holy Ghost - eternal damnation? Because, blaspheme against the Holy Ghost is to attribute the glory and the power to the devil instead of to God. i.e. Of blaspheming against the Holly Ghost - attributing the glory and the power to the devil instead of to God: A pastor has been givin 2 weeks to live because he is about to die from cancer. This same pastor brings himself to his assembly's prayers and intercesions asking to be completely healed. His assembly then intercede for him, praying for a complete healing of their pastor's cancer. After such an intercession, the pastor goes and consults his medical doctor. The doctor declares the pastor completely healed from his cancer. The pastor then anounces from his pulpit "God" has completely cured him from his cancer, and does a healing call proclaiming them all healed in the name of God" from all of their deseases. Hundreds of people are then miraculesly healed from different deseases. And so then, the pastor proclaims that the healing having miraculesly happened in his assembly as been been performed by "God", and that "God" only has the glory and the power. Months go bye, after thousands of deseases having been cured in his assembly, and the very same pastor gets up one Sunday, stands in front of his pulpit and does wath is the equivalency to a spiritual about face saying: I told you God had healed me from my cancer, said the pastor. And I told you, you had then all been healed from your different deseases by God, said the pastor. Well guess what folks, said the pastor, I lied to you all..., said the pastor. It was not God but the "devil" who had healed me, said the pastor. And it is the very same devil who has healed you all of your deseases, said the pastor. The pastor then says: I, your pastor, says the pastor, now attibute all glory and all power concerning my own cancer healing, says the pastor, as well as all of the healing of all of your illness, says the pastor, to the devil, not to God... That was an example of what is a blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, what is attributing God's glory and power to be that of the devil's . The sin against the Holy Ghost is accompanied by the sentence of the danger of damnation. |
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2 | Understanding being saved. | 2 Tim 2:15 | kalos | 178030 | ||
What is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? ‘The case of "blasphemy against the Spirit" in the New Testament is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and in Matthew 12:22-32. The term blasphemy may be generally defined as "defiant irreverence." We would apply the term to such sins as cursing God, or willfully degrading things relating to God. It is also attributing some evil to God, or denying Him some good that we should attribute to Him. This case of blasphemy, however, is a specific one, called "THE blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" in Matthew 12:31. In Matthew 12:31-32, the Pharisees, having witnessed irrefutable proof that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, claimed instead that the Lord was possessed by the demon "Beelzebub" (Matthew 12:24). Now notice that in Mark 3:30 Jesus is very specific about what exactly they did to commit "the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit." ‘This blasphemy has to do with someone accusing Jesus Christ of being demon-possessed instead of Spirit-filled. There are other ways to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, but this was "THE" unpardonable blasphemy. As a result, the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot be duplicated today. Jesus Christ is not on earth today, but is seated at the right Hand of God. No one can witness Jesus Christ performing a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit. Although there is no blasphemy of the Spirit today, we should always keep in mind there is an unpardonable state of existence--the state of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in unbelief. Continual rejection of the Holy Spirit’s promptings to trust in Jesus Christ is the unpardonable blasphemy. Remember what is stated in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life." The only condition when someone would have no forgiveness is if that someone is not among the "whoever believes in Him."’ (Source: www.gotquestions.org/blasphemy-Holy-Spirit.html) Recommended Resource: Hard Sayings of the Bible. Related Topics: What is the unpardonable sin / unforgivable sin? How bad can a Christian sin? What is the role of the Holy Spirit in our lives today? How can I be filled with the Spirit? Who / what is the Holy Spirit? ____________________ To read more go to: www.gotquestions.org/blasphemy-Holy-Spirit.html |
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3 | Understanding being saved. | 2 Tim 2:15 | Liliesofthefield | 178280 | ||
Here is verses pertaining to accepting the mercy of God by the salvation through Christ as mentionned above, followed by the impardonnable sin against the Holy Ghost remains to this date, and healing are still with us todate: Accepting mercy through salvation by Christ: Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins Eph 2:2 Wherein, in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh, in the children of disobedience Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Eph 2:5 when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us ther with Christ, by (grace ye are saved;) Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. The Holy Ghost is still on this hearth and is in us. Hence the unpardonnable sin against the Holy Ghost is still possible: Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. Joh 14:13 And whatsoever, ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified. (...) John 14:16 And I will pray my father that he shall give anothe5213 another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever; Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him but ye know him for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless I will come to you. John 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Healing of sick continues to this day: Then he called his twelve disciples together,and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. Luk 9:2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. (...) Luk 9:6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing everywhere. |
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4 | Understanding being saved. | 2 Tim 2:15 | jlhetrick | 178281 | ||
Lilies, If I can jump im here; I won't to offer some advise. A good approach to group bible study (and we can consider the forum to be just that) it's never a good idea to declare definitively something that you can not definitely support with scripture. Dealing with a single subject here, your definitive statement "The Holy Ghost is still on this hearth and is in us. Hence the unpardonnable sin against the Holy Ghost is still possible:" was not supported with Scripture. The Scripture that you offered does absolutely prove that the Holy Spirit is present in believers today. It does absolutely nothing to prove that the unpardonable sin is still possible today. Understand that I am not saying that it is not possible; I will be honest about it and say that I don't know one way or the other. My caution is against making statements that you can not support with Scripture. Those kinds of statements should be presented clearly as your opinion and not as though they are fact. With this approach other's will respect your opinion and then respectfully debate the subject benefiting everyone. As it is, you may present to others as one unwilling to be taught and unwilling to be corrected by Scripture. Sincerely, Jeff |
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