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1 | philippians 3 | Phil 3:10 | PJLOVECHRIST | 183985 | ||
how important was it to paul to know christ? what did paul have to do to attain to the resurrection from the dead, to reach the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. | ||||||
2 | philippians 3 | Phil 3:10 | jonp | 183986 | ||
Hi, Paul had sacrificed all that he had previously believed in and all the efforts that he had made to attain righteousness through the law, so that he might 'gain Christ'. He had had to choose between holding on to his own life or losing his old life and receiving Christ, and he chose to receive Christ (because Christ had chosen him). Having received Christ all his efforts were now being put into knowing Christ more and more. The verb for to know is ginosko which means to know by experience. He was growing in his knowledge of Christ day by day (Ephesians 3.17-19). And through knowing Christ he also knew and experienced more of the power of His resurrection, and of being made conformable to his death, dying to himself and living to Christ (compare Galatians 2.20; Romans 6.3 ff). And all this with his final goal in mind to attain the resurrection from the dead in response to God's upward call in Christ. He did not attain it himself. He attained it by receiving the gift of Christ Jesus and by persevering in Him. That was his side of it. But that perseverance was guaranteed by the grace and working of God (Philippians 2.13; 1 Corinthians 1.8-9; Philippians 1.6). Best wishes jonp | ||||||
3 | philippians 3 | Phil 3:10 | Searcher56 | 184025 | ||
... Was it a sacrifice to give up rubbish (Phi 3:8) to gain something better? Would you call it a sacrifice if you gave up your paper ring, for one made of gold? You may think you paper ring is worth something, until you know the value of gold. Paul din't make any sacrifice. ... | ||||||
4 | philippians 3 | Phil 3:10 | jonp | 184038 | ||
Hi I do not really want to argue over words but the value of something depends on how it is seen. Paul had certainly put great value on his keeping of the Law. It had been his life for years. It was the most important thing in his life. So moving from that to become a Christian would certainly have been a sacrfice for him at the time and his compatriots would definitely have seen it in that way. Of course later he recognised that it was no sacrifice at all. So in that sense I agree with you :-))) Best wishes Jonp | ||||||
5 | philippians 3 | Phil 3:10 | jlhetrick | 184043 | ||
Hello brother Jon, Very excellent points. I can not speak for Searcher but I will say that I took his post to have been made out of the same concern I had when I read yours. PJ's question was specific in asking "what did Paul have to do to attain..." While your post did point out that the WORK was that of God and not Paul (thank you), that was more of an afterthought (in my opinion) and the sacrifice of Paul seemed to have prominence. I'm guessing that Searcher was responding to that. For anyone with a good background in bible doctrine your post was easily understandable, however, there are many who ask and simply read along on the Forum who lack even the basics (not referring to you PJ as I don't know your background). In any case, we try to police ourselves the best we can when these issues come up. Hope your enjoying the Forum, God bless, Jeff |
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