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1 | Standing firm in one Spirit/spirit? | Phil 2:1 | terrib | 113519 | ||
Logos - the Word Be not dismayed brother Ray, for there are many that see what is going on and you are not alone. For many will come in His name and proclaim their own intelligence. But we have a promise:(parenthesis are mine) (Isa 45:23 KJV) I have sworn by myself, the word (Jesus) is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. (Isa 55:11 KJV) So shall my word (Jesus) be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Therefore keep with what is in your heart and knowledge of Him that has reconciled us to the Father. Many there are that use this space to kindle a flame but our purpose is to enlighten, exhort and bring harmony to those who have lost the vision that is at the end of all things. A carnal heart will dispute whatever is before it. It has been foretold that a disfellowship with Christ will come, so in Spirit grieve, but also in the same Spirit, rejoice. (Rev 2:11 KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. (Rev 19:13 KJV) And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. terrib |
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2 | Standing firm in one Spirit/spirit? | Phil 2:1 | Ray | 113540 | ||
Hi terrib, You are indicating by your parenthesis that if you were capitalizing and using a version that capitalized, then you would capitalize Word in those passages. I encourage you to think of and consider things like that; however in the context of the passages do you not think that the Isaiah passages are speaking of "words" rather than the "Word"? We want to find out what God is saying rather than what we in our openness and creativeness can devise. What is it that we should receive from Him? I believe we have a promise, a down payment, from the Holy Spirit of the holy spirit. So I would say that the Word does indeed give us the promise of the words. 2) At some time in the past I compared your Isaiah 55:11 reference with 1 Corinthians 2:9-16. Consider the spiritual words and spiritual thoughts in this comparison. Isaiah 55:8, "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Neither are your ways My ways," declares the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts. 10 For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth, And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; 11 So shall My/ word be which goes forth from My mouth; it shall not return to Me empty, without accomplishing what (I) desire..." Compare/contrast 1 Corinthians 2:10, "For to us God revealed them [the things prepared] through the Spirit, for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit/ of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the *spirit *which is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us by (God),..." These are the things which we also should speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the [Holy, NKJ] Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. 3)) 1 Cor 2:11, "...Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit/ of God." 1 Cor 2:16, "For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct Him?/ But we have the mind of Christ." 4) I think that we can have the mind of Christ. Not the Mind or the thoughts of the Spirit; but we have been given the *spirit, the words from God. 1 Cor 2:12 above. From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Standing firm in one Spirit/spirit? | Phil 2:1 | terrib | 113605 | ||
Dearest Ray, Your question was, “would you say that we have lost some of the fellowship of the Spirit? Are we even united in spirit?” My response was to your question: Yes, there are those that have lost fellowship of the Spirit, nothing more and nothing less. Nothing grammatical is or was ever implied. The word came forth from the Father and will do what the Father has deemed righteous and will not return void. (Joh 16:28 KJV) I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. terrib |
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4 | Standing firm in one Spirit/spirit? | Phil 2:1 | Ray | 113664 | ||
Hi terrib, Earlier you wrote to me with the explanation that the parenthesis was yours, the following. "(Isa 55:11 KJV) So shall my word (Jesus) be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." And now you give this comparison of Isaiah 55:11 paraphrased and John 16:28. "The word came forth from the Father and will do what the Father has deemed righteous and will not return void. (Joh 16:28 KJV) I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father." I have, therefore some questions for you. 1) Do you not see the difference between "word" and "Word"? 2) Do you not see that the word "it" should be applied in the Isaiah 55:11 verse since the word and thoughts of God is the subject? I hope that I have and that you feel a spirit of gentleness as I ask these questions. We are after all talking about being united in spirit and intent on one purpose. :) Phil 2:2 From the heart, Ray |
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5 | Standing firm in one Spirit/spirit? | Phil 2:1 | terrib | 113667 | ||
Hi Ray, You asked, "1) Do you not see the difference between "word" and "Word"?" Yes, I know the difference, but as in many passages of the Old Testament there is a mirror meaning with that of the New Testament. You asked, "2) Do you not see that the word "it" should be applied in the Isaiah 55:11 verse since the word and thoughts of God is the subject?" Exactly, and what are "the words and thoughts of God"? Jesus! The Word of God. All things were created by Him. The Father spoke and His Word did it. Isn't this part of the Trinity? Wasn't the Word with the Father? If God did not speak would there be a Jesus? (Joh 1:14 KJV) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." In love, terrib |
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6 | Standing firm in one Spirit/spirit? | Phil 2:1 | Ray | 113669 | ||
Hi terrib, The dictionary says that a "mirror" is anything that gives a true representation or description. So when you talk about a "mirror meaning", it should give a true representation. Thinking of Jesus as an "it" would not be a true representation. Thinking of the Scriptures as Jesus Himself and thus worshipping the Bible would not be the true meaning. Scripture tells us that we must believe that Jesus came in the flesh. Jesus is more than the words and thoughts of God. The Scriptures are the word of God; and the Word was God. I know of no Scripture where it talks of the Word [sic] of God. 1) The comparison you made was not a mirror meaning because they didn't match up because of the "it" pronouns. 2) Yet, I agree that there are indeed mirror meanings when we compare Scripture with Scripture and spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. An example might be Isaiah 55:11 with John 1:12. Isaiah 55:11, "So shall My/ word be which goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what (I) desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it." John 1:12, "But as many as received Him/, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in (His) name, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." So, we can say that we receive Him/ and we receive His/ word. What (He) desires is that we believe in (Him). From the heart, Ray |
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