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1 | Did Uzzah has given chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 93426 | ||
I have simple querry with the verse below In 2Sa 6:6 ¶ And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it. 2Sa 6:7 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God. If we analyze what happened I think the motive of Uzzah really is to protect the ark of covenant to fall or break, or as a human instinct it could be a reaction if you saw something falling down. Why God killed him right away? In 1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. It was written there that if we confess our sins, He will cleanse us from all unrighteousness, did Uzzah has the chance to confess and ask forgiveness? How could he ask forgiveness if God killed him right away? God bless, |
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2 | Did Uzzah has given chance to repent | Num 4:15 | TheCurtMan | 93427 | ||
According to verse 8 of II Sam. 6, David felt the same way you did. Uzzah’s intentions may have been good, but his actions were bad. Actually it was a sin, an ungodly action. According Numbers 4:5-15, God had specific instruction about the moving of the Ark. It was suppose to have been done by the Levites, who were to carry it using the carrying poles. They were NEVER to touch the ark itself. To touch it was a capital offense under the Hebrew law, punishable by death. “When Aaron and his sons have finished covering the holy objects and all the furnishings of the sanctuary, when the camp is to set out, after that the sons of Kohath shall come to carry them, so that they will not TOUCH THE HOLY OBJECTS AND DIE…” Numbers 4:15 NASB. Now rather Uzzah was a Levite or not I’m not 100 percent sure, but personally I doubt it. According to verses 9-11 in II Sam. 6, Divid left the ark at the house of Obed-edom. But look at what David said when he went back to get the ark in II Chronicles 15:2, “No one is to carry the ark of God but the Levites…” Uzzah’s intentions may have been good, but the law was already in place before his mistake, and a costly mistake it was, but David learned a very valuable lesson from it; Do it God’s way or suffer the consequences. Hope this answer your question. Any others?? The CurtMan |
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3 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 93576 | ||
I think you did not get the question, I know that touching the ark of covenant is punisheable by death that is the reason why the put a handle so thay can carry it without touching the ark. My question really is did uzzah given a chance to repent to what he has done? otherwise what is the sense of 1John 1:9 that if we repent we will be forgiven. Did Uzzah and the sons of aaron given the chance to repent? how can they repent if they were killed right away God bless, |
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4 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | Aixen7z4 | 93578 | ||
True. There is no repentance after death. But the same question might be asked of King Saul, and of Ananias, with Sapphira his wife. Time does not seem to be the critical element. The Lord said of one Jezebel "I gave her space to repent ... and she repented not" and of Esau it is said that "he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears". It may not be fair to say that you are questioning God's actions, but it is not wise to do so. There are some things we do not know and may not fully understand. This one thing we can say, that God is the judge of all the earth and he will do right. All his works are righteous altogether. We may also say that there is such a thing as a presumptuous sin. Let us pray, as David did (Ps 19:13) that we will be kept back from it. |
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5 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 93678 | ||
So what is your answer? did he given chance to repent or not? I will reiterate the question again. If God killed him right away how could he repent? As I said david committed sin such as adultery and murder, this sins is punisheable by death but david had his chance to repent how about Uzzah? did he given. Is God has a favoritism in terms of repentance. | ||||||
6 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | Aixen7z4 | 93703 | ||
The answer to the one question is Yes; God gives everyone a chance to repent. The answer to the other question is No; God does not practice favouritism. But please be patient and think with me. You seem to know your Bible well. God commands all men everywhere to repent. But repentence is not generally spoken of in light of individual acts of sin. We need to repent of our attitude of rebellion against God. That is what sin is all about. It is that attitude which leads to acts of rebellion. That is what we need to repent of. Can you see it? What would be the good in repenting of murder when the deed is aready done? And how is it possible to repent of suicide? We need to make an overall decision to please God. That is what repentance is all about. As mentioned previously, some people are given space and place for repentance, but they do not take it. King Saul had time to repent, but he never did. Now, you may think it was good of Saul to offer a sacrifice, but God counted it as presumption. I hope you understand. Some people feel they can argue with God, as though God should condider their good ideas or their good intentions. God knows what he wants and he reveals it to us. What if we decide that we will deliberately disobey and prove our point to God later? We know what God did to Uzzah was just. We cannot accuse God. We should understand that the man was acting in a presumptuous manner, knowing that it was not allowed for him to touch the ark. And yet he did. If that is true, then he had a rebellious attitude and he should have repented of that before. In other words, he had had the opprtunity to repent and he had not taken it. I hope you understand and you are not confusing yourself with the thought that the man meant well or that he meant no harm. Nowadays a woman may decide to become a pastor or an elder. (I hope I am not raising an issue for you to disagree with, but God does not allow that). If she knows that, she should repent now. Otherwise we may be discussing why she died while teaching a men's Sunday School class without any chance to repent. But keep it simple. It is like the case of Ananias and Sapphira. This man should have repented long ago of his idea that he can decide what he can do for God. He should have decided to submit himself to God's law. God is just and he gives everyone a chance to repent. Uzzah had had his chance. |
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7 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 93706 | ||
When reading your long answer I was surprise that you did not even quote a single book and chapter So I can follow your answer. I quote some of your answer: Quote: We know what God did to Uzzah was just. We cannot accuse God. We should understand that the man was acting in a presumptuous manner, knowing that it was not allowed for him to touch the ark. And yet he did. If that is true, then he had a rebellious attitude and he should have repented of that before. In other words, he had had the opprtunity to repent and he had not taken it. end of quote. You said Uzzah is not allowed to touch the ark, that is why when he touch it he died. When God said that if someone touching the ark will die he also said that to adam and eve: Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Why adam and eve given the chance to repent, why they dont die right away? you said God has no favoritism? Are you saying that commiting adultery is allowed to david he committed that sin and given the cahance to repent. I hope you are willing to answer my question but please when you answer put scriptures into it. You said that what God did to Uzzah was just, how he can repent if he killed right away. 1 John 1:9 stated that if we repent we were forgiven, what is the sense of this verses to uzzah that was not given chance to repent because he was killed right away. God bless, |
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8 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | Aixen7z4 | 93838 | ||
The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works (Psalm 145:17). Behold, he taketh away, who can hinder him? who will say unto him, What doest thou? (Job 9:12). For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy (Hebrews 10:26). Repentance is a privilege (Acts 11:18) and it envisions a change in the overall, general attitude toward God (Luke 13:3,5) not just a response to individual sins (Luke 13:2,4). It may be that by insisting on an opportunity to repent after every sin you are trying to deny the Lord the privilege of meting out justice. This course may seem wise to you, but God knows best (1Corinthians 1:25). We should not argue with God (Isaiah 45:9). See now, you have a short answer with scripture references (Romans 15:2). I hope you will actually read those passages and catch the meaning, especially of the word “repentance”. Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things (2 Timothy 2:7). |
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9 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94107 | ||
I am surprise that you did not answer me directly but quote scriptures that not related for what I am asking for. In your last post you said that God has no favoritism that is why I am asking you did God give uzzah chance to repent? I am also asked you that the warning similar to uzzah was given to adam and eve, i did quote the passages concerning it. When adam and eve ate the fruits they dont die right away, that is why they are given the chance to repent. But what in uzzah case he cannot repent because he killed right away. You quoted this verse: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy (Hebrews 10:26). end of quote. As I understand you quote this verse in order to explain that uzzah sin willfully even he knew the truth that he was going to die touching the ark. How about adam and eve, I am sure they know that God said to them they surely die if they eat the fruit? why they are given the chance and uzzah did not. God bless, |
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10 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | Aixen7z4 | 94110 | ||
I see that it is not easy to please you, but I will try one more time. The fact is, my friend, that Adam did die on the day that he ate of the fruit. God's word is true. God does not lie. He said Adam would die on the day that he ate of the fruit and Adam did die the day that he ate of the fruit. You must understand what the word "die" means. I hope you will consider two Bible passages concering this. Ephesians 2:1 You hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 1Timothy 5:6 She that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. You see, we are body, soul, and spirit. While our body is still alive, our spirit can be dead, being separated from God. Thus Adam died. He was driven from the presence of God. He was separated from God. So in that sense he was dead. He died the day that he sinned. Similarly, we are dead in sin until we are forgiven and saved. I trust this clears it up and we do not need to go back to the story of Uzzah. But he was spiritually dead because of his sin in rebelling against God. He was aware of his sin, but he had not repented. In God's wisdom he cut off his opportunities to repent by taking his life. Now, I trust this answer is short enough and contains enough pertinent scripture to give you understanding. |
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11 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94118 | ||
Ge 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. Just for clarification God did not say that Adam would die "on that day" there is no word "on that day" found in Gen 3:3 God in Gen 3:3 is not talking about the spiritual death of adam because eventually adam died after a nine hundred fifty long years. Here are the meaning of the "DIE" that used in Gen 3:3 Hebrew word: 'muwth' phonetic spelling 'mooth' meaning "DIE" 1. to die, kill, have one executed (Qal) a. to die b. to die (as penalty), be put to death 1.to die, perish (of a nation) 2. to die prematurely (by neglect ofwise moral conduct) (Polel) to kill, put to death, dispatch (Hiphil) to kill, put to death (Hophal) to be killed, be put to death 1d to die prematurely God created adam not to die at least after disobedience, after disobedience God said this to adam: Ge 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. There is no such teaching about spiritual death in at least five books of moses dont tell you found one I did not read. There is no such teaching about soul of human will go to hell or heaven in at least five books of moses, dont tell me that adam has his teaching already. I would like to remend you that one of your last post you said "God has no favoritism" while in your last post you said: quote "I trust this clears it up and we do not need to go back to the story of Uzzah. But he was spiritually dead because of his sin in rebelling against God. He was aware of his sin, but he had not repented. In God's wisdom he cut off his opportunities to repent by taking his life." If God cut the opportunity of uzzah to repent and adam and yours or mine did not, how could you call that an "equal opportunity" God bless, |
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