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1 | Two swords:is the love of God enough | Eph 6:17 | terrib | 121093 | ||
Hi Ray, Please excuse the delay in my response. Indeed these passages, to me, are a bit complex. Let us go back to the original question: "I am trying to understand why Jesus told his disciples what is cited in Luke: 22: 35-36, referring to the sword." Since Oswaldo Adame does not cite the Scriptures, I will cite them here: (Luk 22:35) And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. (Luk 22:36) Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. First, I must say, the concept of the disciples having swords is a bit odd considering Jesus's ministry of peace. A custom possibly, or from Matthew who collected large sums of money as a tax collector and he had one. But after three years with Jesus, Matthew would have found that he needed it no longer. Or, perhaps the swords were already in the room and the disciples had none, for the terms in verse 38 "Lord, look, here are two swords." does not state that they personally owned them and so they took the swords with them to the garden because of what Jesus said about obtaining one. For reference to the disciples owning swords is silent. Verse 35 starts with "And he said", denoting the same idea of thought as the previous verses. Verse 36 starts with "Then he said", denoting a change of thought. Verse 37 starts with "For I say", ties it to verse 36. I will put it to you that the period at the end of verse 35 should be a comma, and the train of thought should continue through verse 37. Putting these two verses together, I would put it to you that Jesus was directing the thought toward Judas. Judas had the purse and that he should go now and buy his sword of betrayal. Let him sell his covering, his garment, his soul, so the Scripture could be fulfilled that He cited in verse 37. And the other disciples did not discern this, thus their response, "here are two swords", thinking of physical force. And the Lord seeing that they did not understand and Judas was on his way, says, "It is enough", this part is over, the "It", the betrayal, thus Jesus closes the discussion and leaves to go to the garden. This is a senario that comes to my mind when reading this, yet as I stated at the beginning, "a bit complex". Ray, I read your response that the sword was the Word of God, but I don't see that in the context of this discussion concerning the cited Scriptures. terrib |
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2 | Two swords:is the love of God enough | Eph 6:17 | Ray | 121151 | ||
Hi terrib, Your idea of Judas selling his covering, his garment, his soul, so that verse 37 could be fulfilled does not hold water because verse 37 refers to Isaiah 53:12; and there it is talking about the Righteous One (not Judas) who would pour out Himself to death and be numbered with the transgressors. Maybe we are just tickling each other's ears, and we should just say, "Enough". I think that we can agree that verses 36, 38, and 49 are sufficient explanations of how the events of the passage happened. However, Jesus says in verse 51 says, "Stop! No more of this." And in Matthew 26:52 Jesus says "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword." You are correct that the word of God and the sword of the Spirit are not in the context of the verses of Luke 22. I am sorry about that. From the heart, Ray |
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