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1 | Christ's Descent... | Eph 4:10 | DocTrinsograce | 241511 | ||
"Throughout the course of church history, many people have taught that Jesus' spirit descended into hell after His death on the cross. Basing this idea on Ephesians 4:8–10 and 1 Peter 3:18–20, most of those who have taught that Jesus' spirit went to hell after His death have said that He went there to proclaim judgment to sinners and/or rescue the saints of the Old Testament. Today, many in the heretical Word of Faith movement teach that the crucifixion was insufficient to atone for our sins and that Jesus also had to suffer three days of torment in hell. "Faithfulness to all of Scripture, however, requires us to deny that Jesus' spirit went to hell after He died. First, Jesus told the repentant thief on the cross that he would be with Christ in Paradise on the same day of their crucifixion (Luke 23:39– 43). Second, nothing in Ephesians 4:8–10 says Jesus descended into hell; Paul means only that Christ descended into the grave. Third, 1 Peter 3:18–20 likely refers to the Son of God preaching by the Holy Spirit through Noah to the people of Noah's day. Finally, Jesus finished His atoning work on the cross. The New Testament speaks of propitiation, the turning away of the Lord's wrath, only in relation to Jesus shedding His blood on the cross (Romans 3:25; Hebrews 2:17; 9:1–10:18; 1 John 2:2; 4:10; 5:6–11). Moreover, our Savior's last words on the cross were 'It is finished' (John 19:30). He saw His work as completed when He died. "Jesus' spirit never went to hell, but on the cross He suffered the full wrath of God that is poured out in hell. True, the scourgings of the guards, the nails in Christ's hands, and the other physical pains Jesus suffered manifested God's wrath. Nevertheless, the most intense suffering Christ experienced was spiritual in nature, the hopelessness of losing the gaze of His Father's blessing and the torment of experiencing God's wrath for the sins of His people (Mark 15:34). John Calvin comments, 'After explaining what Christ endured in the sight of man, the Creed appropriately adds the invisible and incomprehensible judgment which He endured before God, to teach us that not only was the body of Christ given up as the price of redemption, but that there was a greater and more excellent price -- that He bore in His soul the tortures of a condemned and ruined man' (Institutes 2.16.10). "Sin against an infinite being demands an infinite punishment in hell. In a few hours, Jesus suffered and exhausted the infinite punishment that impenitent people cannot exhaust even after an eternity in hell. He could do this because, in His deity as the Son of God, He is an infinite being. This is a great mystery, but as the Heidelberg Catechism states, it does assure us that we are fully delivered from the anguish and torment of hell in Christ (Q and A 44)." --R. C. Sproul http://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/christs-descent-into-hell/ |
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2 | Christ's Descent... | Eph 4:10 | EdB | 241515 | ||
Let us not clutter up the discussion with Purgatory or the false teaching that the cross was not sufficient. Let us stick to fact. First and foremost don't confuss the name Hell with the final destination of the unrightous dead. Hades/Hell is not the Lake of Fire, a place of punishment (since there has been no judgement yet). It is the holding place of the dead. Luke 16:19-31 clearly describes this places as having two sections a hot dry place and Abraham's bosom or paradise. That can not be disputed. Eph 4:8 clearly tells us Jesus decended and lead captive captivity. To be in captivity you must be held, it is speaking of the captivity of death. Since Jesus overcome death He lead captive those held by death to Heaven. These verse more fully explain this Ephesians 4:9-10 (NASB) 9 (Now this expression, "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.) If Christ never descended into Hell how did He lead captive, captivity? Finally The Apostles Creed which many believe to have been originally constructed by the Apostles and know to have formally existed in written form as early as 390 AD clearly states Christ descended into Hell No Jesus did not experience punishment, torture, or need to do any more in Hell to secure our salvation but Jesus did need to present Himself as the Messiah that the righteous dead had been waiting for, and free them from the deaths hold over them. Just as we are free of it today, so that upon death those of us that are in Christ go directly into His presence, in Heaven. |
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