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1 | What happened to following 1 Cor.14 | Gal 3:3 | Bobby Conner | 148221 | ||
Only One Pastor Speaks? Whatever happened to following the 1 Cor.14 model for Church service? How have we come up with the model that most follow today (e,g. one person speaks, the rest only listen)? Who decided on the model we have... Catholic's? Thanks Bobby Conner |
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2 | What happened to following 1 Cor.14 | Gal 3:3 | Mommapbs | 148222 | ||
Greetings Bobby Conner - our adversary likes it this way and we like dumb (pun intended) sheep follow right along. . . believing that only one person has a direct line to God. Yet believers all possess the same Spirit - we all have acess to the mind of Christ (1 Cor 2:16). Ignorance, complacency, deception, arrogance and pride all feed this mentality that results in this model. No denomination is responsible; we all are. I believe that God continues to speak through His servants today, but never in a way that is inconsistant with His written Word.imo, unbelief is the thief in our midst here. mommapbs |
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3 | What happened to following 1 Cor.14 | Gal 3:3 | Bobby Conner | 148378 | ||
Thanks, to those who shared their opinions on the question that I submitted, however I am still... very much of the opinion that they do not provide reasonable God evidence to null and void the instruction that Paul so carefully detailed in Chapter 14. I believe God gave us the right instruction from the beginning, regardless of how our culture might change. Today's systems seem to be, "change with the culture." I am against this, to a certain degree. Abandoning the model of chapter 14, is not moving forward, it is throwing it out, so that other men could devise something different. The apostle devotes this chapter, giving guidelines to the whole Church (when gathered together), that this would provide for a normally functioning body. He says in verse 3, (up to three) prophets should be allowed to bring edification, exhortation, and comfort to the congregation, yet today, it's all one pastor/teacher. A very different model. Jesus said of the Spirit, "you hear the sound of it, but you do not know where it began nor where it will go... (paraphrased)." That speaks to me of something that man cannot devise or have an outline for. Yet today, when the whole Church is gathered together (in one place v.23), that is about the extent of it, one man or woman following an outline. Very planned and very un-like life. But the unplanned, supernatural-life move and word of God (through prophets and others), this nourishes the body. Paul included them in the model... he was instructing that they be allowed to minister as the Lord inspired them, this was the norm. I think it's also interesting that the apostle does not turn Corinth away from it, instead he gives his blessing to it. He only clarifies the guidelines, so that it doesn't lead into something confusing (which it may have already done). Today, 1 Pastor/teacher speaks, while the rest sit there, unable to share or help apply or add to the message or exercise their gifts ( right then, while the whole body is met together v.23), is not life-like. It is a model and system (probably handed down from the Church in Rome), a man-made model, that ties the body up, it is religion. It is likened to Terri Schavio. It lacks the very nourishment that God said he would give through these offices and outpourings (verse 3). The model we follow, does not promote getting the unplanned (life-like) supernatural mind of the Spirit, instead the system we follow, helps account for the 1 million people leaving the Church every year to follow something greater, at their own home Church's (according to George Barna - 2005). Now, this is not something new, it is a model that has bothered people like me, for years. And this attributes to the 10 million people in the USA that are un-churched. Ten million were once in Church, but they have left and SOME have left because of this lack of real life and the power manifested by God. In Kansas City or Denver Colorado there are empty Church buildings on every corner. As a side-note: Turning up the amplifiers and making the services into more of a rock concert will not bring God's true power to the congregation, either... yet this seems to be the trend. Real life across the evangelical congregations that I've been too (including Pentecostals), follow a model after someone who null and voided the first... and I don't think it was God. As far as Paul's model leading into chaos... any supernatural move of the Spirit may seem chaotic at first, so that is why Paul instructs some guidelines (e.g. only 2 or 3 prophets speak and probably a limited number of other things allowed). For love, Bobby Conner. |
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