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1 | Who are "the elect"? | Gal 3:29 | kalos | 182625 | ||
Who are the elect? Is it Israel only or is it all believers, Jews and Gentiles alike? The New Testament writers frequently use the term "the elect." My question is not a general question about the theology of election or, as some call it, predestination. My question is about how the term "the elect" is used, particularly in the New Testament. Does "the elect" mean only the nation of Israel? Or does it mean the NT church, which includes both Jewish and Gentile believers? A Messianic believer recently told me that when the Bible speaks of "the elect" it is speaking of Israel only. I disagree, but I need help in explaining to him why I disagree. Can anyone provide me with Bible-based information I could use to show him that the Bible term "the elect" does not apply solely to Israel? I'm asking for this information not for the purpose of winning an argument. I merely want to be able to show my friend the truth of the matter. Any factual, biblical information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Grace to you, John * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Galatians 3:26-29 NASB For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise. |
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2 | Who are "the elect"? | Gal 3:29 | ebrain | 182632 | ||
In my considered opinion the expression "the elect", refers to both Jews, and Gentiles, I don't see how anyone reading the whole of the Bible could possibly come to any other conclusion. Try a word search, and see if it helps, | ||||||
3 | Who are "the elect"? | Gal 3:29 | kalos | 182636 | ||
Ebrain, I agree with you, but the problem with this particular individual is that if one reads primarily the OT and regards the NT as somehow inferior to the Old, then he would give little weight to NT proof texts. Grace to you, John |
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4 | Who are "the elect"? | Gal 3:29 | ebrain | 182642 | ||
My understanding of, "A Messianic believer", is a Jew who has accepted "Jesus the Nazarene" as their, and our Messiah, I know a number of them, and have never found one yet who did not consider that the NT, was just as much Divinely inspired as the OT. In fact I have gained a lot more insight into the NT, from Messianic Jewish teachers, than I have gained from Gentile teachers. Two M J, web sites that I can strongly recommend are www.ariel.org and www.moriel.org have a look and you will see what I mean. The Lord bless you. Edwin. |
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5 | Who are "the elect"? | Gal 3:29 | kalos | 182645 | ||
Ebrain, I know what you mean and I agree. I'm not saying that a lesser respect for the NT is a standard teaching of Messianic believers. It's just that this particular Messianic believer, the one I'm talking about, does seem to regard the NT as inferior to the Old. For one thing, this person believes the NT was originally written in Hebrew, then translated into Greek. And that in the translation from Hebrew to Greek, much of the original meaning was lost. Again, not all Messianic believers hold to this, but some do. I appreciate your replies and your recommendation of ariel.org and moriel.org. I'll look into them. Grace to you, John |
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6 | Who are "the elect"? | Gal 3:29 | ebrain | 182646 | ||
Hi John. I can sympathize with your friend, as I believe that the autographs of a large part of the NT were in fact written in Aramaic, a sister language to Hebrew, and then translated into Greek for publication. I have discussed this at length before on this forum. Peter considered Paul's writings as Scripture. Must close now due to time. The Lord bless you. Edwin. |
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