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1 | How does death work in us? | 2 Cor 4:12 | Mommapbs | 147700 | ||
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2 | How does death work in us? | 2 Cor 4:12 | terrib | 147704 | ||
Hello Mommapbs, Not only was this apostle aware of the physical torments of a fleshly death, but also, I see Paul saying that in them, those that have put on Christ and are giving their life for their friends, are constantly putting away the deeds of the flesh. Denying themselves of their own needs so the Grace of God could be manifested to others in order to gain souls for the kingdom of God. Paul states, I "die daily", that is, not excepting the desires of this life, counting them as nothing compared to the prize that awaits. We are buried with Christ and in Christ, dead to the laws of the flesh, constantly choosing between life or death, in the body and in the mind. A part wanting to do good and then choosing that want. A never ending battle against those powers that would take us away. As Paul states, (2 Cor. 4:15), "For all things are for your sakes...". Not looking after his own needs. Thereby tormenting the tormentor and openly showing the power of the resurrection of Christ and the Spirit that dwells with-in, to the Glory of the Father. Therefore, the death that works in us is for our good by the will of the Father. A paper I have saved since believing our Lord: "Dying To Self" "When you lovingly and patiently bear any disorder, any irregularity, any impunctuality, or any annoyance; when you can stand face to face with waste, folly, extravagance, spiritual insensibility... and endure it, that is dying to self. When you are content with any food, any offering, any raiment, any climate, any society, any solitude, any interruption by the "Will of God", that is dying to self. When you never care to refer to yourself in conversation, or to record your own good works, or itch after commendation, -- when you can truly love to be unknown, that is dying to self. When you can see your brother prosper, and have his needs met, and can honestly rejoice with him in spirit and feel no envy nor question God, while your own needs are far greater, in desperate circumstances, that is dying to self. When you can receive correction and reproof from one of less stature than yourself, and can humbly submit inwardly as well as outwardly, finding no rebellion nor resentment rising up with-in your heart, that is dying to self." -- Submitted by Barbara Burres -- Grace to you, terrib |
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3 | How does death work in us? | 2 Cor 4:12 | kalos | 147705 | ||
"Every day I am in danger of death!" [30] Why am I in danger every hour? [31] I protest, brothers, by my pride in you, which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I DIE EVERY DAY! [32] What do I gain if, humanly speaking, I fought with beasts at Ephesus? If the dead are not raised, "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die." 1 Cor. 15:30-32 (ESV) (Emphasis added.) "Never read a Bible verse. That's right, never read a Bible verse. Instead, always read a paragraph -- at least" (Never Read a Bible Verse by Gregory Koukl) Both in the immediate paragraph (1 Cor. 15:29-32) and in this chapter, the context in which we read "I die daily" speaks of literal, physical death. In the entire 15th chapter the main topics under discussion are death and resurrection. So, taken in context, "I die daily" is speaking of physical -- not spiritual or figurative -- death. "15:31 I die daily. Paul was exposed to so many physical dangers and to such violent attacks on himself and on his teachings that 'daily' cannot be an exaggeration." (Ryrie Study Bible, Moody Press, 1976, 1978) "15:30,31 I die daily. Paul continually risked his life in self-sacrificing ministry." (MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, 1997) |
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4 | How does death work in us? | 2 Cor 4:12 | terrib | 147713 | ||
Hi kalos, Your response is absolutely correct, the entire context has to do with physical penalties for preaching. And why is it that he faced these dangers everyday? The dangers he encountered were a direct consequence from preaching the gospel? Which he did not have to choose; having a free will. His choice lead him to this time of physical threat and his choice, of saving his own neck or dying to self-preservation, was to die in Christ and take the abuse of physical threat for the kingdom. Thus, I see the physical torment and the more base desire to do God's will. If it were just physical, how could he die every day? (although the idea intended is clear). As you wrote, "Paul continually risked his life in self-sacrificing ministry.". Doesn't this mean dying to self? Is that a physical descision or a spiritual descision? "I endure so many sufferings and persecutions, that it may be said to be a daily dying. I am constantly in danger of my life; and my sufferings each day are equal to the pains of death."(Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible) "...he always bore in his body the dying of the Lord Jesus, and was continually delivered to death for Jesus' sake; death was always working in him, he expected it every day, and was ready for it; he did not count his life dear unto himself, but was very willing to lay it down for the sake of Christ and his Gospel..."(John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible) So, the point that was made to Mommapbs, was dying to self, to do the things that are necessary to further the gospel, either in physical peril and offering of our lives or self abasement. accepting your view also, terrib |
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