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1 | Why no prophets anymore? | 1 Cor 14:5 | EdB | 235849 | ||
Bradk As to the post on prophets it is my understanding that any one theological position is not to be championed. That responses are to present biblical truths and when a theological position is presented it is to be done fairly and giving equal time to any opposing theologicial positions. Example in the case Prophet and prophecy is view primarily in two ways. The first is did exist in the Old Testament and New Testament but it is now believed to have ceased since the canonization of the New Testment which is seen as the perfect of 1 Cor 14:15 There is other theological group that sees prophecy active today perhaps not in the same scope of the it was seen in the Old and New Testament but still in use today. Most modern day usage of the prophecy is to confirm things to people that they had been praying about. No true prophecy has ever gone beyond the boundaries already estabished in scripture. A true believer must prayerfully considered whether any prophecy is God given or not. I think this is a fair representation of Prophecy today that stays well within Lockman guidelines and gives fair representation to both sides of the issue. And is presented to inform not to champion or critize a particular theological position. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm of the opinion that until all questions of this nature are answered in a similar way the StudyBible forum will be seen as favoring one theological position over another. Which is something Lockman wants to avoid. |
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2 | Why no prophets anymore? | 1 Cor 14:5 | Beja | 235850 | ||
EdB, Hey, I appreciate what you are saying. "it is my understanding that any one theological positon I s not t be championed." The only distinction here is that this principle is that the forum shouldn't champion a view. But certainly we are to grant individuals the right to champion a view. It is precisely when we do NOT allow an individual to champion a view that the FORUM begins to champion a view. Doc, posted his view as an individual holding to a particular theological stance. So long as the forum doesn't restrain the opposing view, or a poster doesn't contentiously belittle a POSTER for holding that view, it isn't censure. An individual has the freedom to say a certain view is in their estimate, wrong. You champion certain views. I champion certain views. We each champion certain views. The fact that we are allowed to do so is the very essence of the forum NOT championing a view. Now granted there are two big limitations. First, the forum has set certain boundaries such as Sola Scriptura. Second, my championing my view ought never to be mixed with my attacking another poster rather than my discussing the merits of his view. Being a jerk doesn't have to go hand and hand with voicing my views. The point being, forum fairness is not an obligation on individual posters to personally give equal support to views they don't hold. They just have to let others voice them. Don't you agree? In Christ, Beja |
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3 | Why no prophets anymore? | 1 Cor 14:5 | EdB | 235851 | ||
Beja This was way beyond just championing a theological view. he used a belittling and insulting term. No different that if I said Reform theologians are pedophiles and as sinners not worthy to handle the holy word of God. Think that might provoke a fight? Then why don't you think what he said might evoke the same reaction. My question why is everyone defending the use of such a word in connection to a theological position? Think of Lockman position on this what if headquarters of the denomination holding that theological position was seeking a company to have them publish Sunday School material or to use NASB material and they came across that post on a Lockman sponsored forum belittling, mocking and insulting a doctrine they hold near and dear. Do you think it might influence their purchasing decisions? |
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4 | Why no prophets anymore? | 1 Cor 14:5 | Beja | 235855 | ||
EdB, Obviously the hypothetical you have given is way out of bounds. However, in reviewing this thread I have not seen anything at all even remotely like that. Perhaps I have missed something. You hinted at private correspondence at one point. Perhaps the insult was in that. Unless of course you consider the cessassionist view to be inherently offensive itself. Keep in mind that the view by its very nature necessitates assigning the "false prophet" tag to those currently calling themselves prophets in the miraculous sense. To say that a person can not believe that modern "prophets" are false is to actually forbid the cessationist view point. Unless it is directed as a personal attack on somebody on the forum, we have to see it simply as the articulation of the view. Sure, its probably offensive to those who claim the title "prophet," but as you have said, this view is within the bounds of orthodoxy that the forum allows. But again, perhaps I've just missed what you are referring to. In Christ, Beja |
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5 | Why no prophets anymore? | 1 Cor 14:5 | escar.smith@yahoo.com | 235856 | ||
Beja John the baptist was the last prophet, however we still have all of them Isaiah,Jeremiah,Ezekiel,all the minor prophets.God left them in this letter he wrote to us the BIBLE, With all the anaswers Thank you and GOD BLESS | ||||||
6 | Why no prophets anymore? | 1 Cor 14:5 | Beja | 235867 | ||
EscarSmith, Perhaps, but you must then wrestle with why Paul encouraged the Corinthian church to desire that they might have the gift of prophecy above all other gifts. (1 Cor 14:1). In Christ, Beja |
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7 | Why no prophets anymore? | 1 Cor 14:5 | escar.smith@yahoo.com | 235868 | ||
I believe the subject of 1 Corinthians 14: is languages,If a preacher or evangelist goes to a foreign country and don't speak their language he better take an interpreter or they won't even know when to say amen,all the prophets are listed in the bible, 1 Corinthians 12:28 Concerning gifts, And God hath set some in the church, First apostiles,secondarily prpohets,thirdly teachers,after that miracles,then gifts of healing, helps,governments,diversities of tongues. Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions,and your old men shall dream dreams:As Paul is teaching spiritual gifts are give to who ever God says deserves them. I hope this helps thanks again, and God bless. |
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8 | Why no prophets anymore? | 1 Cor 14:5 | Beja | 235869 | ||
Escar, No, I'm afraid I'm not understanding how anything you said helps your position. First, I think you have failed to deal with 1 Corinthians 14. You have dismissed it as applying to translators for missions. However this has two serious faults. 1. You only addressed tongues, not prophecy. 2. Paul specifically singles this out for the church. 1 Corinthians 14:19 Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue. Now this was said in context of comparing prophecy with tongues. And again he says... 1 Corinthians 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the CHURCH may be built up. Clearly the prophecy is in and for the church, not foreign advancement. So I think you have failed to address the text successfully. Now that being said, I am ok with that. I don't need help solving this dilemma because I don't share your presupposition that John was the last prophet. In fact I don't see how I could possibly affirm that while at the same time affirming that Christ is my prophet, priest, and king. For Christ came after John. I merely pointed you to a passage with which you ought to wrestle with and have an answer in your own mind given your theological position regarding John. Since you seem to have your mind settled with regards to 1 Corinthians fourteen then all is well. I don't need to understand. My theological position needs no answer for it. In Christ, Beja |
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