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1 | General Admonition (dealing with Casiv) | 1 Cor 14:26 | Sir Pent | 20377 | ||
General Admonition ............................... Dear Forumites, Recently Charis mentioned to me that it only takes "a few unruly persons to bring out the worst in us". I commented that this did not have to be the case. I said that even if a person made a post that was not constructive, we were still responsible for how we responded to that person. I said that we could maintain self-control (fruit of the Spirit), and wisdom in our responses. Unfortunately, I have observed over the past two weeks that Charis has been more correct than I have been. I am referring specifically to the interactions of practically everyone on this forum with the person known as "Casiv". I want to be clear that I am not defending the statements which Casiv has made and believes. In fact, I have thus far disagreed with the vast majority of his interpretations from scripture. However, I do believe that Casiv has not been treated with the respect and kindness, which anyone should be able to expect from a Christian community. This has not been an isolated problem, but has come from a large number of otherwise distinguished members of our forum. In no particular order: Schwartzkm has referred to his posts as "nonsense". Many members (such as Debbie, Hank, Tim Moran, and Searcher56) have mocked his posts by talking about the game of Clue. He has been called names; for example Jensen called him "Miss Cleo". Others such as Retxar and Bill Mc, have mocked his use of numerics by using phrases with 11 letters in them such as "Bunch of Bull". And most recently, Radioman told him that, "Each and every one of your postings shows your ignorance, arrogance and abrasiveness." Once again, I want you all to understand that I know how the ideas that Casiv supports are very inflamatory. I also know that the style, which Casiv uses to communicate is very frustrating. However, I think that we all need to be much more careful to focus our criticism on his content and style, as opposed to personal attacks. We also need to make sure that our responses are CONSTRUCTIVE criticism and not just ones that make fun of ideas. A good example of this would be a post where Charis responded, "I find your tone arrogant and offensive." Then Charis went on to answer his questions regarding the relationship between the Old and New Testaments. I hope that as you all think about these things that you will redouble your efforts to not curse the darkness, but be a light in it. Also for those of you who the Holy Spirit convicts, I hope that you will be able to humble yourselves and apologize to anyone whom you have wronged. |
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2 | General Admonition (dealing with Casiv) | 1 Cor 14:26 | Sir Pent | 20682 | ||
Response to Criticism .......................... Dear Forumites, I would like to first thank Tim Moran for his willingness to earnestly search his heart and listen to the Holy Spirit's conviction. I also appreciate the support of EdB and completely agree with his position that we should be tolerant of people themselves, while not being tolerant of false doctrine. Secondly, I would like to respond to some criticisms brought forward by Hank and seconded by Kalos. It seems to me that I have offended you by admonishing the elder statesmen, so to speak, of the forum. I want to first say that I have great respect for many of these "dedicated and intelligent members of this forum". It is actually because of the high regard that I have for all of those who I mentioned in my post, that I expect Christ-like behavior from them. The statement was also made that, "Every reasonable effort has been made to deal with this user", as if this was a defense for the responses that were given. I would say that when reasonable efforts have been exhausted, that the proper action is not be become unreasonable, but rather to cease striving. If a user is completely unable to be dealt with using scripture, logic, experience, etc, then do not stoop to name calling and insults. Instead, shake the dust off your feet and stop responding to that thread. Finally, it was mentioned that the responses were not personally attacking Casiv at all. Let me quote once more from one member, "Each and every one of your postings shows your ignorance, arrogance and abrasiveness." This is not saying that the content of Casiv's posts are ignorant or arrogant or abrasive, which they sometimes are. It is saying that Casiv, himself, is those things. That is exactly the type of thing, which I believe we as Christians ought not do. In the end, it is the Holy Spirit's job to bring conviction to our hearts. I am a bit surprised how few people have responded in any way to this thread, considering how many people were involved in all of this. |
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