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1 | Zealot, are you a sinner or saint? | Rom 8:10 | kalos | 18129 | ||
*God chooses those who choose him.* Is that what the Bible really teaches? "Foreknowledge. Occasionally someone will suggest that God's election is based on His foreknowledge of certain events. This argument suggests that God simply looks into the future to see who will believe, and He chooses those whom He sees choosing Him. Notice that 1 Peter 1:2 says the elect are chosen "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father," and Romans 8:29 says, "whom He foreknew, He also predestined." And if divine foreknowledge simply means God's knowledge of what will happen in advance, then these arguments may appear to have some weight behind them. "But that is not the biblical meaning of "foreknowledge." When the Bible speaks of God's foreknowledge, it refers to God's establishment of a love relationship with that person. The word "know," in both the Old and New Testament, refers to much more than mere cognitive knowledge of a person. Such passages as Hosea 13:4-5; Amos 3:2 (KJV); and Romans 11:2 clearly indicate this. For example, 1 Peter 1:20 says Christ was "foreknown before the foundation of the world." Surely this means more than that God the Father looked into the future to behold Christ! It means He had an eternal, loving relationship with Him. The same is true of the elect, whom we are told God "foreknew" (Romans 8:29). That means He knew them--he loved them--before the foundation of the world." (See: www.gty.org/IssuesandAnswers/archive/election.htm) |
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2 | Zealot, are you a sinner or saint? | Rom 8:10 | Zealot | 18241 | ||
Yes, God chooses those who choose Him: Revelation 20 15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. Revelation 13 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. Revelation 3 4 "But you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their garments; and they will walk with Me in white, for they are worthy. 5 "He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. Which names are written "from the foundation of the world"? Which names will not be erased? Matthew 22 14 ""For many are called, but few are chosen.' Romans 8 28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. Romans 10 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. John 3 16 ""For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. Matthew 3 2 ""Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.'' Acts 2 38 Peter said to them, ""Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Romans 10 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Matthew 24 31 ""And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Time is a construct of the universe created by God for the support of the lives of His children. Eternity is not a long time, it is the absence of time. So, before the foundations of the world, God knew who to call, who would hear, who would believe, who would repent, who would confess His name (choose Him), who would be baptised, who would be saved, and who would not have their names erased from the Book of Life. Hebrews 6 4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. To elect is to choose. The Lord will gather his "elect" (His "chosen") from those who hear, believe, confess, repent, and are baptised. The "choosing" is mutual, as is appropriate in a marriage. Jesus will not divorce His bride: Romans 11 29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. Nor can the betrothal be broken: John 10 27 ""My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. As in Heb 6 above, only the one who becomes unfaithful and walks away from the promise will ever be able to "divorce" Jesus, thereby resulting in the erasure of their name from the book of life. The choice occurs on both sides of the relationship. |
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3 | Zealot, are you a sinner or saint? | Rom 8:10 | kalos | 18290 | ||
No, God does not choose those whom He sees choosing Him. "Foreknowledge. Occasionally someone will suggest that God's election is based on His foreknowledge of certain events. This argument suggests that God simply looks into the future to see who will believe, and He chooses those whom He sees choosing Him. Notice that 1 Peter 1:2 says the elect are chosen "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father," and Romans 8:29 says, "whom He foreknew, He also predestined." And if divine foreknowledge simply means God's knowledge of what will happen in advance, then these arguments may appear to have some weight behind them. "But that is not the biblical meaning of "foreknowledge." When the Bible speaks of God's foreknowledge, it refers to God's establishment of a love relationship with that person. The word "know," in both the Old and New Testament, refers to much more than mere cognitive knowledge of a person. Such passages as Hosea 13:4-5; Amos 3:2 (KJV); and Romans 11:2 clearly indicate this. For example, 1 Peter 1:20 says Christ was "foreknown before the foundation of the world." Surely this means more than that God the Father looked into the future to behold Christ! It means He had an eternal, loving relationship with Him. The same is true of the elect, whom we are told God "foreknew" (Romans 8:29). That means He knew them--he loved them--before the foundation of the world." (See: www.gty.org/IssuesandAnswers/archive/election.htm) |
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