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1 | Which is first, wrath or Grace? | Rom 2:2 | DPMartin | 234416 | ||
BradK Thanks for the reply To put it plainly, a witness (in the case of Christianity) has experienced the Presence of God via the power of the Holy Spirit and his daily walk that the Lord is with him, and a theist knows his own thoughts on a matter, not necessarily based on personal experience. And the ignorant theist is correct about his own thoughts, or adopted theory/theology, therefore that makes him correct in his own eyes, but what he thinks isn’t correct. Jesus is always correct on and in all things, and in all matters, and anything else is contrary to that. So what “maturity” is there in holding on to something that may be contrary to what the Lord God thinks and knows? In most cases the theist believes his perception supercedes the Truth of God, and argues against the Truth of God with the gainsaying. And without a relationship with the Truth of God how can the theist know? And Jesus Christ being the Truth of God revealed in the flesh in the world wouldn’t withhold the Truth of God, unless one doesn’t have that relationship. The theist has a relationship with his own thoughts, and imaginations, and those who agree with him. |
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2 | Which is first, wrath or Grace? | Rom 2:2 | BradK | 234419 | ||
Hello DP Martin, I'm not sure where we're getting off-track here? I'm not referring to mere "theism". I'm speaking of theology as it relates to the believer! The matter related to a Biblical theology is Christ-centered, not theistic! There's a big difference. You ask, "So what “maturity” is there in holding on to something that may be contrary to what the Lord God thinks and knows?" That would depend what your talking about. I'm not positive of what answer you're looking for, but there is most definitely a "biblical maturity" that's spoken of. That again is what I'm referring to. We get to know our faith- our Saviour through the written Word, not experientially. Note: Eph 4:13-14, "until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming;" Heb 5:12-14, "For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food. For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant. But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil." (NASB) Heb 6:1 "Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God," All of this relates to our theology whether we're aware of it or not! Perhaps you could share a bit about yourself in the User Profile? Knowing something about your "theological" background, beliefs, i.e. church affiliation can be helpful in a discussion such as this:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | Which is first, wrath or Grace? | Rom 2:2 | DPMartin | 234420 | ||
BradK You have to be way incorrect, in your assumption "We get to know our faith- our Saviour through the written Word, not experientially." Though it is true that faith comes by hearing the Truth of God but no one believes what he don’t know, nor follows what he don’t know, hence knowing the Presence of God is required in order to follow. What bible did Abraham read, or was the Lord God with him? Did Abraham read some book and then followed or went to the land that is now Israel? Or did Abraham experience the Presence of God, and believed (note: God speaks in His Presence)? Or what book did Noah read when he followed instructions to build and ark? Or what book did Moses read? Was God’s deliverance of Goliath into David’s hand theory or experience. Was Job theorizing or experiencing, or was it, his friends were theorizing and Job was experiencing. And who was it that the Lord had a relationship with, Job, or Job’s friends? These people walked with the Lord their God, and documented that relationship (The Bible). The Way of the Lord God is to be with His People. Anyone who would think or say that it’s theory or theology (the Bible) doesn’t believe it is fact, or the truth. Such mind sets think to be superior to the Truth. (Please note that all my questions in this conversation have been rhetorical in nature, I am not looking for you to have, or expect you to have answers.) thanks |
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4 | Which is first, wrath or Grace? | Rom 2:2 | BradK | 234422 | ||
Hello DP, I will respectfully agree to disagree at this point! I'm referring to how we believe now, 21st Century! Unless we can define our terms and you provide some foundation for discussion, we're just spinning our wheels! Forgive me as this is a Study Bible Forum, but I've apparently lost your point in this whole matter... Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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