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1 | Which is first, wrath or Grace? | Rom 2:2 | Beja | 234400 | ||
DPMartin, My comment about mercy was specifically meant in regard to pre-fall eden. Ofcourse we need mercy now. Beyond this, I honestly am not very sure what the second half of your post is saying regarding wrath. I think you might have misunderstood my statements regarding wrath as well but I'm not following you well enough to be sure. If you have a question of me it would help me if you could try to boil your question down to a bit more precise version of it. My confusion partly stems from what appear to be contradictory statements you are making. You critique my view of God's wrath coming in response to sin by asking me "If that were true then what is Jesus' offering on the Cross all about?" My answer would be, "Exactly that." His death was an attonement to satisfy God's wrath against sin on behalf of those who trust in Him. I'm not sure how you see the cross as a case against God's wrath upon sin? Sorry that I couldn't follow you. I'm sure it is probably more related to my own shortcomings than your post. In Christ, Beja |
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2 | Which is first, wrath or Grace? | Rom 2:2 | DPMartin | 234403 | ||
Bega I can understand that what I posted would be confusing. Maybe this might clarify. Did Jesus come into the world to redeem and restore and deliver us, because God Loves, or because of God’s wrath? Thanks |
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3 | Which is first, wrath or Grace? | Rom 2:2 | Beja | 234404 | ||
DPMartin, The answer is both. God's wrath is upon all mankind due to sin, his love is what has prompted him to redeem us. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. Joh 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." Note that the wrath of God "abides." This greek word means to remain. In other words, the wrath has not first come upon them for rejecting Christ. The wrath of God was already looming on them, and now in their rejection it remians, or abides. And yet love prompted God to give Christ for the salvation of believers. The wrath of God on sinners is what made the coming of Christ necessary. The love of God towards sinners is what directly prompted God to send his son. Both are why. One created the need, the other created the deed. In Christ, Beja |
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