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1 | Different Claims On Joseph's Father | Rom 1:3 | heartfire | 40930 | ||
Ah, I see. Thanks a lot! But still, both Matthew and Luke trace it back to Joseph. It doesn't seem to be the case, from the use of English, that one traces to Mary while the other traces to Joseph. The Amplified Bible says this of Matthew 1:16 "Jacob, the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, Who is called the Christ." Luke 3: 23 of the same version says, "Jesus Himself, when He began [His ministry], was about thirty years of age, being the Son, as was supposed, of Joseph, the son of Heli..." Hence, both say that Joseph's father was two different people. Unless in the Jewish custom, Mary's father would be also equated to Joseph's father because husband and wife are made one flesh. But I am not sure of that, so it would be very nice if anyone would confirm or correct that notion. Thanks a lot once again! |
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2 | Different Claims On Joseph's Father | Rom 1:3 | meusing | 40994 | ||
Actualy the word Luke uses could be also translated son-in-law. A. T. Robertson in his Word Pictures of the Greek New Testament said : The two genealogies differ very widely and many theories have been proposed about them. At once one notices that Luke begins with Jesus and goes back to Adam, the Son of God, while Matthew begins with Abraham and comes to "Joseph the husband of Mary of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ" (#Mt 1:16). Matthew employs the word "begot" each time, while Luke has the article tou repeating huiou (Son) except before Joseph. They agree in the mention of Joseph, but Matthew says that "Jacob begat Joseph" while Luke calls "Joseph the son of Heli." There are other differences, but this one makes one pause. Joseph, of course, did not have two fathers. If we understand Luke to be giving the real genealogy of Jesus through Mary, the matter is simple enough. The two genealogies differ from Joseph to David except in the cases of Zorobabel and Salathiel. Luke evidently means to suggest something unusual in his genealogy by the use of the phrase "as was supposed" (hws enomizeto). His own narrative in #Lu 1:26-38 has shown that Joseph was not the actual father of Jesus. Plummer objects that, if Luke is giving the genealogy of Jesus through Mary, huios must be used in two senses here (son as was supposed of Joseph, and grandson through Mary of Heli). But that is not an unheard of thing. In neither list does Matthew or Luke give a complete genealogy. Just as Matthew uses "begat" for descent, so does Luke employ "son" in the same way for descendant. It was natural for Matthew, writing for Jews, to give the legal genealogy through Joseph, though he took pains to show in #Mt 1:16,18-25 that Joseph was not the actual father of Jesus. It was equally natural for Luke, a Greek himself and writing for the whole world, to give the actual genealogy of Jesus through Mary. Adam Clarke wrote : That St. Luke does not always speak of sons properly such, is evident from the first and last person which he names: Jesus Christ was only the supposed son of Joseph, because Joseph was the husband of his mother Mary: and Adam, who is said to be the son of God, was such only by creation. After this observation it is next necessary to consider, that, in the genealogy described by St. Luke, there are two sons improperly such: i.e. two sons-in-law, instead of two sons. As the Hebrews never permitted women to enter into their genealogical tables, whenever a family happened to end with a daughter, instead of naming her in the genealogy, they inserted her husband, as the son of him who was, in reality, but his father-in-law. This import, bishop Pearce has fully shown, nomizesqai bears, in a variety of places-Jesus was considered according to law, or allowed custom, to be the son of Joseph, as he was of Heli. The two sons-in-law who are to be noticed in this genealogy are Joseph the son-in-law of Heli, whose own father was Jacob, #Matt 1.16 ; and Salathiel, the son-in-law of Neri, whose own father was Jechonias: #1Chron 3.17 , and #Matthew 1.12 . |
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