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1 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | meusing | 43530 | ||
Oh, one thing I forgot to say (I am not as eloquent as some). Since Jesus is God when we talk about serving God we are talking about serving Jesus. I am sorry, I thought that was a given. CHM continues talking about our sacrificial service ... There are two things needful to a course of steady and consistant action, viz, the Holy Ghost as the power of action, and the Word to give proper direction. To use a familiar illustration, --on a railway, we should find steam of little use without the iron rails firmly laid down: the former is the power by which we move; and the latter, the direction. It is needless to add that the rails would be of little use without the steam. Now Abraham was blessed with both. He had the power of action conferred by God, and the command to act given by God also. His devoted ness was of a most definite character; and this is deeply important. We frequently find much that looks like devotedness, but which in reality, is but the desultory activity of a will not brought under the powerful action of the Word of God. All such apparent devotedness is worthless, and the spirit from which if proceeds will very speedily evaporate. We may lay down the following principle, viz, whenever devotedness passes beyond divinely-appointed bounds, it is suspicious, if it comes not up to these bounds, it is defective; if it flows without them, it is erratic. I quite admit that there are extraordinary operations and ways of the Spirit of God, in which He asserts His own sovereignty, and rises above ordinary bounds; but, in such cases, the evidence of divine activity will be sufficiantly strong to carry home conviction to every spiritual mind; nor will they, in the slightest degree interfere with the truth of the principle that true devotedness will ever be founded upon and governed by divien principle. To sacrifice a son might seem to be an act of extraordinary devotedness, but be it remembered, that what fave that act all its value in god's sight was the simple fact of its being based upon God's command. |
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2 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | angel1 | 44471 | ||
Hi again-I must disagree that when the word "God" is said that Jesus is implied. People have turned to false Gods repeatedly so I guess I like to be specific when speaking of Him.-in Him-angel-1 | ||||||
3 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | meusing | 44546 | ||
angel ... We are talking about what Paul said about making a decisive dedication of our bodies as a living sacrifice holy and well pleasing to God. we obey the Word in the Power of the enabling of the Spirit. | ||||||
4 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | angel1 | 44587 | ||
Hi meusing-thx for reply-I have compared your "chm" reading with all accepted versions and i think you must be reading some-new age bible. What other versions are you reading?-in Him angel-1 | ||||||
5 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | meusing | 44617 | ||
Angel, I read NASB, the Amplified, etc. C. H. Mackintosh was born in 1820 and died in 1896. He was a great man of prayer and faith. One of his works, Notes on the Penteteuch is what I quoted from, as I saw a connection about what he was saying about Abraham sacrificing Isaac in obediance to God and Rom 12:1 in our being a living sacrifice ourself and our Isaacs (that which we hold close to ourself) in obediance to God. I do not think the 'New Age' ever talks about obediance to the word of God in the power of the Holy Spirit. Nor, faith in God that never looks at the circumstances or on results but focuses only on God. |
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6 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | angel1 | 44717 | ||
Hi meusing-thx for reply- I'm just uncomfortable with your seeming reluctance to "name His name"!--His name is Jesus-why does anyone not want to simply say Jesus?----in Him angel-1 | ||||||
7 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | meusing | 45899 | ||
I have no reluctance to name Jesus, nor did CHM, but we are talking about doing what is pleasing to God as mentioned in the verse in Heb. And the passage I quoted seemed to relate to doing what is pleasing to God in the life of Abraham. I saw no reluctance to mention Jesus. Just dedication of ourselfes to God as a living sacrifce which is well pleasing to God. Where do you see reluctance to mention Jesus in that? | ||||||
8 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | angel1 | 46152 | ||
hi meusing--thx for reply--i've gone back to the original communication and still don't see the accuracy of chm's statements--"creature streams" ?-you seem to be still avoiding the issue-There is only one way to "please" God--that is to obey all of His laws -otherwise we need a saviour-Jesus. The one man who can meet this standard. In Him-angel-1 | ||||||
9 | our sacrifice and our faith | Rom 12:1 | meusing | 46180 | ||
No one can 'obey all of His laws', for the Law shows us how sinnful we are and how much we need a Saviour - Jesus. However Paul in Rom 12 is talking to Christians (brethren), ones who already have placed their faith in Jesus. The phrase 'creature streams' is a figure of speech -a metaphore- of the wants and desires of the creature (the flesh) which rebels against the will of God when God's will goes against it. It would only be 'natural' for Abraham to want to not sacrifice his son at God's command; but because of his faith in God's mercies and His faithfulness in keeping His promises, Abraham rose up early to do His (God's) will not his (Abraham's) own. the phrase brings to mind what God said in Jeremiah : Jer 2:13 For My people have committed two evils: they have forsaken Me, the Fountain of living waters, and they have hewn for themselves cisterns, broken cisterns which cannot hold water. Contrasting that with saying of Jesus : John 7:37 Now on the final and most important day of the Feast, Jesus stood, and He cried in a loud voice, If any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink! John 7:38 He who believes in Me [who cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me] as the Scripture has said, From his innermost being shall flow [continuously] springs and rivers of living water. John 7:39 But He was speaking here of the Spirit, Whom those who believed (trusted, had faith) in Him were afterward to receive. For the [Holy] Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified (raised to honor). So, as CHM had already said "every one who believes in Jesus is a debtor to the scene around him to allo the streams of refreshment to flow forth from him. ... He is called to be the constant witness and exhibiter of the grace of Him on whom he believes. ... IF he is habitually feeding upon Christ, he cannot avoid exhibiting Him. The more the Holy Spirit keeps the Christian's eye fixed on Jesus, the more will his heart be occupied with His adorable Person, and his life and character bear unequivocal testimony to His grace. FAITH IS AT ONCE THE POWER OF MINISTRY, THE POWER OF TESTIMONY, AND THE POWER OF WORSHIP. IF WE ARE NOT LIVING "BY THE FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD WHO LOVED US, AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR US," WE SHALL NEITHER BE EFFECTUAL SERVANTS, FAITHFUL WITNESSES NOR TRUE WORSHIPERS. We may be doing a great deal, but it will not be service to Christ; we may be saying a great deal, but it will not be a testimony for Christ; we may exibit a great deal of piety and devotion, but it will not be spiritual and true worship." The issue of heb 12:1 and 2 is that because of what Jesus has done for us we present ourselves as a pleasing sacrifice to God. We do not keep back any 'Isaacs'. And this is done in faith with our eyes fixed on the promises and mercies of God, just as Abraham's was. |
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