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1 | Heaven or death sleep? | Acts 7:59 | Makarios | 225114 | ||
Greetings Justme! I'm sorry to hear about your aging friend who lost his wife. Adventism is based on the conviction that the Second Advent of Christ is the sole hope of the world. By 1844, Adventist groups could be distinctly recognized from traditional Protestant churches because of their intense focus on the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. William Miller (1782-1849) of New York, a veteran of the War of 1812, was famous for coming up with dates (that came and went) for the Second Coming. (Source: pages 25-28 of "Handbook of Denominations in the United States", 11th Edition, Frank S. Mead, Samuel S. Hill, 2001 Abingdon Press) With that said, since the history of the Adventist movement and their current state as "Adventists," being so focused on Christ and His Return, then you can begin and end with Christ the Savior. Perhaps you could emphasize the words of Jesus in Luke 23:46 - the One so eagerly anticipated, stating an immediate reunion with God the Father at the point of His death - along with the words of Stephen - an ordinary, spirit-filled disciple like us - in Acts 7:59 who also expected an immediate reunion with the Lord at the point of his death, could serve as a basis and have the most weight in a theological discussion, along with Ecclesiastes 12:7 for Old Testament support, for debunking the theory of "death sleep." I'm assuming that the entire "death sleep" notion has its roots in such verses as 1 Kings 2:10, where it says that "David slept with his fathers" and John 11:11 where it says "Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep." But even Jesus had to tell the disciples plainly in John 11:14 that Lazarus had died. Frankly, it takes more faith to believe in such a thing as "death sleep" which cannot be proven Biblically than it would take to believe that a part of us will go and be with Christ, much like Moses and Elijah in the Transfiguration (Mark 9:1-8), which happened years after Moses died (Deut. 34:5-6). With prayer and an emphasis on the words of Christ, whose Second Coming still remains as an intense focus point for Adventists, I remain confident that the Holy Spirit can work to reach and comfort and give peace to your friend. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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2 | Heaven or death sleep? | Acts 7:59 | Warren F. Kenney | 225118 | ||
while i do not believe that the second coming is mans salvation i do believe that the souls will not go directly to heaven until he comes. in 1 thessolonians4:16-18 it states that when Jesus comes he will call he dead first then the living. this does not mean it happens along time later like the left behind movies suggest. In Matthew 12:36 Jesus states the words on that day of judgement. not year not years he says days. only some people went to paradise but that isn't heaven it is like a waiting place. | ||||||
3 | Heaven or death sleep? | Acts 7:59 | Makarios | 225140 | ||
Greetings Warren F. Kenney, Welcome to StudyBibleForum.com! You stated, "i do believe that the souls will not go directly to heaven until he comes".. I am curious as to how you interpret Luke 23:43, in which Jesus says, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise." Also, the Second Coming of Christ and the Resurrection of the Dead - some to life everlasting and some to eternal punishment (Daniel 12:2) - is a different subject altogether than what happens to a person's spirit at the time of death. At the Second Coming, it will involve a bodily resurrection (see Luke 24:39,42-43; Acts 1:4; John 2:19-21, 20:17; Matthew 28:9; 1 Cor. 15:35-44) where the spirit is reunited with the body. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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4 | Heaven or death sleep? | Acts 7:59 | Warren F. Kenney | 225143 | ||
1 corinthians 15:44 clearly states that there is a spiritual body and a natural or physical body. acts 1:4 talks about the gift of the holy spirit that will be given to them. aas vers 5 states. jesus was speaking of his death and ressurection from his death in john 2:19-21 jesus did go to his father but we must remember that jesus is god he is one with God. Matthew 28:9 is jesus being worshipped by the disciples who saw him.also speaking of the ascension of jesus he is holy he can do what he wants. his body was holy just as our souls are supposed to be holy. genesis 1:26 states that we are made in his image. he is pure our physical bodies have limitaions but our souls have no limits. theerefore we are to be holy. he came back in flesh because he knew thaey would need proof in order to believe he returned. look at the example of thomas. john20:24-29 i believe that jesus took that man to a sort of like waiting place because he went to heaven to prepare a place for us. and when i mentioned the second coming the person i answered i think that the second coming was our salvation. | ||||||