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1 | Are Jesus and God 2 or 1? | John 8:17 | srbaegon | 130403 | ||
Hello thisbabbler, Here is one of the best and most concise explanations that can be given: Definition of Chalcedon (451 AD) Following, then, the holy fathers, we unite in teaching all men to confess the one and only Son, our Lord Jesus Christ. This selfsame one is perfect both in deity and in humanness; this selfsame one is also actually God and actually man, with a rational soul and a body. He is of the same reality as God as far as his deity is concerned and of the same reality as we ourselves as far as his humanness is concerned; thus like us in all respects, sin only excepted. Before time began he was begotten of the Father, in respect of his deity, and now in these "last days," for us and behalf of our salvation, this selfsame one was born of Mary the virgin, who is God-bearer in respect of his humanness. We also teach that we apprehend this one and only Christ-Son, Lord, only-begotten -- in two natures; and we do this without confusing the two natures, without transmuting one nature into the other, without dividing them into two separate categories, without contrasting them according to area or function. The distinctiveness of each nature is not nullified by the union. Instead, the "properties" of each nature are conserved and both natures concur in one "person" and in one reality. They are not divided or cut into two persons, but are together the one and only and only-begotten Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. Thus have the prophets of old testified; thus the Lord Jesus Christ himself taught us; thus the Symbol of Fathers has handed down to us. Steve |
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2 | Are Jesus and God 2 or 1? | John 8:17 | thisbabbler | 130405 | ||
I wonder if he understood what it was he professed to believe or was it mere credulity based on his and other's philisophical theorizing. I certainly could never understand it! And that's the best and most concise you've read. I'm of the strong opinion that if we have to be theologians like this fellow in order to come to a full understanding of truth, God is less than just. May that never be so! |
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3 | Are Jesus and God 2 or 1? | John 8:17 | srbaegon | 130408 | ||
Hello thisbabbler, A history lesson is in order. What I gave you was concocted in 451 A.D. as a result of the Council of Chalcedon. This august group of theologians was brought together in order to look at the Arian heresy, which was debunked as heresy. The definition given is a portion of their final report. It may be difficult to read, but it's brilliant in its thoroughness. Steve |
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4 | Are Jesus and God 2 or 1? | John 8:17 | thisbabbler | 130413 | ||
Brilliance is in the eye of the beholder. The history of these councils is interesting. One can see the development of the trinity dogma as it unfolded by comparing the creeds that resulted from some of the more famous ones. |
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5 | Are Jesus and God 2 or 1? | John 8:17 | srbaegon | 130436 | ||
Hello thisbabbler, Yes, you can see the dogma unfold--quite brilliantly at that. Steve |
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6 | Are Jesus and God 2 or 1? | John 8:17 | thisbabbler | 130733 | ||
And God's blessing on the "church" were so evident at the time and during the centuries to follow. History really is enlightening! | ||||||