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1 | It is the (s)Spirit that gives life?Both | John 6:63 | Ray | 150405 | ||
Hi Aixen7Z4, It has been nearly a year since you introduced your post. Can I get comments from you on comparing John 6:63 and John 11:25 with the idea of looking at "It is the *spirit that gives life?" John 6:63, "...the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." John 11:25, "...I am the resurrection and the life." From the heart, Ray |
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2 | It is the (s)Spirit that gives life?Both | John 6:63 | Aixen7z4 | 150520 | ||
Can you believer this? I wrote a long response, and lost it. I suppose the Lord wants me to simply reiterate that capital letters do not serve the purpose of clarifying what a word in the original language stood for. As far as I can tell, the Greek word for “spirit” is exactly the same word that is elsewhere translated “Spirit”. Capital letters are simply the choice of the translators. I think it helps to have the proper name for a person to start with a capital letter. Thus I would say, “I do not think there is a ray of hope that Ray will give up his fascination with capitalization”. It helps us to distinguish between different English words with identical spellings. But in the originals, there was no such device. The translators have used capitals to convey their understanding that a word refers to a person, a deity, etc. In John 6:63, I do believe the New Living Translation says it best. “It is the Spirit who gives eternal life. Human effort accomplishes nothing. And the very words I have spoken to you are spirit and life”. The reason that the NLT is so good is that it takes context into account. The translators knew (from vv. 40, 47, 54) that Jesus was talking about eternal life and not biological life. They knew from the rest of Scripture (John 3:5; 1 Corinthians 6:11; Titus 3:5) that the Holy Spirit plays this vital role in our salvation. They knew that the Gospel part of the word of God plays a key role (Romans 10:17; 1 Peter 1:23). They knew that the word of God is what the Holy Spirit uses (Ephesians 6:15). They knew that only the Holy Spirit knows the meaning of the word of God (1 Corinthians 2:11), and that only he can impart the understanding to the hearer (vv. 12,13). Therefore their translation. The person who gives eternal life is the Holy Spirit. The words he uses are spirit(ual words). As for John 11:25, I believe the NLT is accurate again: “Jesus told her, ‘I am the resurrection and the life.[a] Those who believe in me, even though they die like everyone else, will live again‘”. I prefer the GW translation, however: “Jesus said to her, ‘I am the one who brings people back to life, and I am life itself. Those who believe in me will live even if they die‘”. But I think the best translation would be: “Jesus said to her, ‘I am the restorer of life; I am life itself. Those who believe in me will always have me, and they will never die”. And then: “Those who are spiritually dead, when they believe on me, they will come to life again” (v.26). I am not sure what comparison can be made between those two passages (John 6:63 and 11:25). To my mind, they are additive, not comparative. Jesus is the giver of life and the restorer of life, and he speaks words that are spiritual and life-giving. When Jesus says, “Live”, then we live, (as in Ezekiel 16 or 37). I think it is unlikely that Jesus said, “It is the spirit that gives life”. Someone else may have said that somewhere else, meaning, “As long as the spirit is in you, then you are alive”. But Jesus was not making that trite and unnecessary statement. I do not think so. His words are spirit, and life. He was talking about the Holy Spirit, I believe, and the eternal life he gives. |
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3 | It is the (s)Spirit that gives life?Both | John 6:63 | Ray | 150630 | ||
Hi Aixen7z4, You have said that an interpretation of John 6:63 as "It is the spirit who gives life" would be a trite statement. But there is power in the breath of life. Genesis 2:7, "Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed in his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." 1 Corinthians 15:45, "So also it is written, "The first Man, Adam, became a living soul." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." From the heart, Ray |
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4 | It is the (s)Spirit that gives life?Both | John 6:63 | Hank | 150640 | ||
Dear Ray, this evening I have read the updates to your user profile and am deeply saddened to learn that your health has taken a turn for the worse. I sincerely hope that it will be only a temporary turn and that your treatments will slow or stop the spread of the disease. My concern and my best wishes certainly go out to you, dear Christian brother, and most of all I remember you in my prayers. Our small differences in points of view pale into insignificance and are eclipsed by the common bond we share that unites us as brothers in Christ and fellow bond-servants of the Lord Jesus. May the God of grace, mercy and peace be with you and your family, Ray, and minister to your needs as together you look to Him for strength and courage. Jesus promised to be with His sheep always, and He is not slack concerning His promises. Across the miles I send my love for you as my brother in Christ. --Hank | ||||||
5 | It is the (s)Spirit that gives life?Both | John 6:63 | Ray | 150664 | ||
Hi Hank, Thank you...Ray | ||||||