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1 | Hebrews 6:4-6 | John 6:1 | LJ777 | 199950 | ||
Can someone please help me understand what Hebrews 6: 4 - 6 is saying? What does it mean to be a partaker of the Holy Spirit? How do I know if I have been a partaker of the Holy Spirit? | ||||||
2 | Hebrews 6:4-6 | John 6:1 | parpar | 200068 | ||
You become a partaker of the Holy Spirit when you do what is described in the following verses, especially v13. Eph 1:11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, Eph 1:12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory. Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, Eph 1:14 who[fn2] is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. My understanding of Heb 6:4-6, below, is taken from another web site where questions were being asked on the subject of, "eternal security". Please allow me to add something that often comes up whenever, "O S A S", is under discussion, and that is a reference to Heb 6:4-6, which some interpret as indicating that salvation can be lost. This of course is not so, because if it were so it would make all the verses that have been quoted untrue, and this cannot be the case, as the Word of God does not disagree with itself, and what's more cannot be made to do so. First read verse 9 before you read vs 4-6, and you will see that the writer is quite sure that what is referred to in vs 4-6 has not happened, but there is a fear that it might happen. As the title of this letter indicates, this group of believers were all Jews who had accepted that Jesus was the Messiah, and were as a result being so severely persecuted by the majority of Jews who did not accept Jesus, that they were giving serious consideration to returning back to established Judaism, until such times as opposition had died down, and then return back again to believing in Jesus as before. The writer is stating at vs 4-6, that this course of action is an impossibility,,, and that is all that is being said here. Bless you. parpar |
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3 | Hebrews 6:4-6 | John 6:1 | parpar | 200069 | ||
Further to my previous post, and to put the subject into perspective, I would like to add the following. "Salvation is dependant on two things, firstly that which God has done, and secondly that which you do as a result of what God has done. What God has done will never be undone, whereas what you do can be undone. You can either do what the Scripture verses below tell you to do, or not as the case may be. Rom 10:8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart"[fn5] (that is, the word of faith which we preach): Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Rom 10:10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Rom 10:11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."[fn6] If you do believe, and confess, then you will not only be saved, but you will also be eternally secure, and will remain in this condition, unless of course you at some future time, "do not believe", then you will be unsaved, and not eternally secure". What I cannot understand is why some one who has been saved, who's eyes have been opened, who's sins are forgiven, who knows that they are on there way to Heaven, should wish to throw it all away, return to an unsaved state and go to Hell instead. I have been a believer for many years, and so far have had no desire to do so? parpar |
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4 | Hebrews 6:4-6 | John 6:1 | BradK | 200074 | ||
Hello parpar, I understand what you're saying and, no doubt, Heb. 6:4-6 is one of the more difficult passages in the NT. However, I have a challenge with your statement that, "Salvation is dependant on two things, firstly that which God has done, and secondly that which you do as a result of what God has done"? Possibly it needs to be stated clearer? The statement would seem to indicate that salvation is not entirely of God, and that we have some active part. God has done it all, we simply believe by faith in this finished work. I find it a major contradiction to stipulate that one can be "eternally secure", and then, at some future time become unsaved! That places the ultimate act of salvation in your or my hands, and by this logic, one is never really, truly eternally secure. I also see no support from scripture of any once saved becoming unsaved and going to hell. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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5 | Hebrews 6:4-6 | John 6:1 | hopalong | 200076 | ||
Hi Brad, I also had problems with parpar's post on heb:6 until I read his previous post on the topic. Hopalong |
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6 | Hebrews 6:4-6 | John 6:1 | DocTrinsograce | 200079 | ||
Hi, Hopalong... I heard a Lutheran pastor the other day use a good analogy, one that I think you'd appreciate. He said, imagine a man in the hospital whose heart stops. He is dead. Its finished. Pale skin, blue lips, his flesh begins to cool. The doctors and nurses rush to his side, equipped with a defibrillator and medicines. They give him oxygen, inject his heart with adrenaline, then apply the paddles to his chest. A jolt of electricity courses through the man's heart. Suddenly, it starts beating again, his color returns, and he gradually regains consciousness. He smiles up at the attendants and says, "Wow, I'm sure glad I had the sense to resuscitate myself!" In Him, Doc |
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7 | Hebrews 6:4-6 | John 6:1 | hopalong | 200080 | ||
"And you were dead in your trespasses and sins" had the sense to resuscitate yourself! Cute...but tragic Thanks Doc, Hopalong |
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