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1 | Where did Jesus call Simon and Andrew? | John 1:35 | Songbirdca | 47681 | ||
In Mark 1:16-20 we read where Jesus called Simon and his brother Andrew to be his disciples. He found them in Galilee fishing. However in John 1:35-42 it says something completely different. Why the discrepancy? Can anybody clear this up? Songbirdca |
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2 | Where did Jesus call Simon and Andrew? | John 1:35 | Jaknik | 48705 | ||
There are a lot of "discrepancies" in the four gospels. Mark is usually accorded the first in line status, followed by Matthew, Luke, then John (some 30 years after the other three). Note the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist in each gospel. In Luke, John the Baptist is in jail and doesn't baptize Jesus. In Matthew, John the Baptist does baptize Jesus and recognizes him as the Son, but later, when he hears about the miracles Jesus is doing, John sends his disciples to ask Jesus if his is "really" the Son of God. Check out the perfume episodes, there are three or four different versions. A couple have the head of Jesus annointed with perfume; others have the perfume poured over his feet and wiped off by the hair of the woman who did the pouring; happens at Simon the Leper's house, then at Simon the Pharisee's house, then at the house of a Mary, the sister of Lazurus. One of the women is described, too, as a prostitute. Then at the cross when Jesus is crucified, one of the gospels (only one) puts the mother of Jesus there, where Jesus actually talks to her. That gospel is the Book of John. John claims that he, too, was at the foot of the cross. None of the other Books say anything about this. John is the only one to mention the stabbing of Jesus's side by the soldier's spear. Then when the tomb is discovered to be empty, each gospel relates that differently, having different people show up, having different angels in different locations, and having just one, then another gospel has two angels. Some have earthquakes happen, while others don't. Matthew has dead people from surrounding graveyards come alive and walk out of their tombs and go into Jeruslem and mingle with the citizens.... Matthew and Mark have an angel visit Joseph to tell him about the Holy Spirit and the coming of the baby Jesus. In Luke, the angel appears to Mary instead of Joseph.....etc.... |
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3 | Where did Jesus call Simon and Andrew? | John 1:35 | Morant61 | 48710 | ||
Greetings Jaknik! Welcome to the forum! Your comments illustrate a common misunderstanding that people have about historical narratives. It would be impossible to include every detail of every historical event in every narrative. So, authors tend to highlight certain things. For example, both Matthew and Luke relate the family lineage of Christ, but Mark and John do not. Is this an error? Of course not, it is simply a difference in what details were reported. For instance, you mentioned that John mentions Mary being at the cross, but the rest don't. This doesn't make John wrong! He simply reported something which wasn't important to the other Gospel writers, but was to him. The only time differences in reporting becomes a problem is when you have contradictory statements being made. For instance, let's say that John reported that Mary was at the cross and Matthew said that she was not. This would be a problem. But, none of the examples you listed are of this nature. The Gospels are four independent and accurate historical statements about the birth, life, ministry, and death of Christ. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Where did Jesus call Simon and Andrew? | John 1:35 | Jaknik | 48736 | ||
Dear Mr. Moran: No "contradictions" in the angel visitations in Mark, Matthew, and Luke, as they apply to Mary and Joseph? And no "contradictions" in all the Gospels as they describe the death, burial, resurrection, number of angels, who saw what where, earthquakes, etc? These are descriptions of the same events but those descriptions are markedly different. |
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5 | Where did Jesus call Simon and Andrew? | John 1:35 | Morant61 | 48743 | ||
Greetings Jaknik! Please, just call me Tim! :-) Can you point out one of these contradictions? Remember, a contradiction is "A and not A". One account mentioning a detail that is left unmentioned in another account is not a contradiction. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | Where did Jesus call Simon and Andrew? | John 1:35 | Jaknik | 48747 | ||
Matthew 28: describes an earthquake, one angel coming down, rolling away the stone and sitting on it, speaks to the guards and the women..." Mark 16: women come to tomb, stone is already moved, inside the tomb is the angel (note: no guards or earthquake mentioned. To you, just an omitted "detail"?) Luke 24: huge stone is already rolled aside when the women arrive...inside, no angel yet, but then TWO angels suddenly appear... John 20: describes one woman, Mary, arriving at the tomb, the stone already rolled away. No angel or angels here at this time. Instead, Mary goes to get Peter and John. Then Peter and John go home, and Mary returns to the tomb, looks in and there are now TWO angels who talk to her.... ---------------------- As someone once said: "...the devil is in the details..." Was there an earthquake? Were there two angels, or just one? Were the guards there, too, being spoken to by the angels? How many women were there? Was Peter there? Was John there? The only version that puts John and Peter there is John...and John was certainly available or known when Mark, Matthew and Luke were written...or should have been...should these "details" be dismissed? If so, why should they? At the very simplest, if you were trying to prove a case in a court, this kind of "detailing" would derail your client in a heartbeat. Shouldn't we expect a tighter narrative? Is this the way an air-tight house should be built? Or, is the risk a "house of cards"? Again, when dealing with something as important as a "belief" and "faith", sophistry and speciousness should not be allowed. |
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7 | Where did Jesus call Simon and Andrew? | John 1:35 | Morant61 | 48749 | ||
Greetings Jaknik! For the record, let us note that nothing you mentioned falls into the category of a contradiction (A and not A at the same time). What you have pointed out is that each account has varying levels of specificity. Do you really expect that every Gospel include every detail of every event? In the words of John 21:25 - "Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written." If I am reporting an event, and a particular detail has no interest for me or serves no purpose in my account, I will leave it out. The statment, "I went to work last night" is no less true because I don't give you a second by second account of everything that happened to me, was thought by me, or seen by me. If you want to critize the accounts for not being detailed enough, that is one thing. But, something is not contradictory unless something is stated to be both true and false at the same time. :-) p.s. - Correction on a previous post: I had said that there weren't any angels in John's account. But, as you pointed out, there are two mentioned after Peter and John depart. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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