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1 | Friday crucifixion | John 19:31 | Mdsimmons | 181133 | ||
Recently,I have encountered discussions about weather it was a Wednesday or Friday crucifixion.I cannot see it happening before Friday,the edvidance doesn't seem to support it(in my veiw).I feel it is an important because Jesus was fulfilling prophecies concerning Himself.He said #1 He would be betrayed,#2 handed over to the chief priests and sentenced to death,#3 given over to the gentiles,#4 be killed, and 'on the third day',He would rise. In Acts 10:3,9,23,24,30 the story of Cornelius is a literal 72hr. time frame,which lines up perfectly to the same hour that Jesus gave up the Ghost on the cross(ninth hr. 3pm)and Cornelius calls it "four days ago".(in the story of Lazarus Martha said the body would stink after 'four days' in the grave). People who believe it was on Wednesday, say that Mary did not have time from Thursday eve.-Friday eve., to annoit Jesus' body(this would have been day five,according to Cornelius' count). The scriptures say that Nicodemus bought 100lbs of spices,and Joseph brought linen cloth and the both wrapped the body together(John 19:38-40).(Matt.27:61;Mark 15:47;Luke 23:55 say that Mary Magdarlene and another Mary,was watching them do this and was there when they rolled the stone in frount of the tomb. Matt.27:62-65 says,on the Sabbath/the next day,the chief priests and pharisees,asked Pilate to have the tomb gaurded until after 'the third day'.So Pilate ordered that a seal be placed over the tomb and gaurds to watch over it.But in Mark 16:3 while Mary Magdarlene and Jesus' mother were walking to the tomb,they were wondering who would roll away the stone as if they knew nothing of the seal or gaurds.. This was after the Sabbath ended Sat/eve and very early Sunday morning and they were expecting to annoit Jesus' body.Also,if you count backwards,the days leading up to the crucifixion,if it were Wed.,That would have Jesus riding/burdening a donkey on the previous Sabbath, instead of the first day of the week.If you believe Jesus rose on Sabbath,then He would not fulfill First Fruits/ Wave offering.There are many other problems with a Wed. crucifixion,but this is what I feel a 6th day crucfixion would reveil: 1:)1st Adam was created on the 6th day,Christ was in paridise/heart of the earth on the 6th day, preaching to the OT saints, Christ is called the 2nd Adam and the First Born of the dead.2:)Jesus is the Bread which came down from heaven (Manna),only,the 6th day manna would not stink or become wormy as long as it was gone before sun up the first day of the week.God said He would not suffer His Holy One to see corruption(Act 2:27,31;13:35-37)3:)The first born was to recieve a double portion,Jesus is the First Born of all creation, and the First Begotten of God,as I showed above, the only day a double portion was given, was on the 6th day. My question is,..above #1-#3 are things I feel the Lord has reveiled to me, has any one else heard these things preached or read the same things some where?? If so, where can I read them? Also, what are your thoughts about these things? |
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2 | Friday crucifixion | John 19:31 | Aspiring Overseer | 181134 | ||
For your consideration: The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. [It was the preparation] Every Sabbath had a preparation which began at the ninth hour (that is, three o'clock) the preceding evening. Josephus, Ant. b. 16 c. 6, s. 51, recites an edict of the Emperor Augustus in favour of the Jews, which orders, "that no one shall be obliged to give hail or surety on the Sabbath day, nor on the preparation before it, after the ninth hour." The time fixed here was undoubtedly in conformity to the Jewish custom, as they began their preparation at three o'clock on the Friday evening. (from Adam Clarke's Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1996 by Biblesoft) AO |
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3 | Friday crucifixion | John 19:31 | ebrain | 181293 | ||
Subject: A problem with time. Our Lord Jesus said that he would be in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights i.e. 72 hours, however, the Gospel accounts indicate a period of only 37 hours at most. Can any one help me resolve this. Thank you Edwin. Please give the scripture verse where Jesus said three days and three nights, and also state how you arrived at 37 hours. Thank you for your questions. For 3 days and 3 nights, please read Matt Ch 12 v 40. The 37 hours or thereabouts is arrived at as follows. Read the 4 Resurrection accounts and you will find that our Lord rose from the dead at around dawn on the first day of the week i.e. 12 hours from the end of the Sabbath, then there are 24 hours during the Sabbath, and may be up to an hour on Friday. In that part of the world, and at that time of the year sunset, and sunrise were close to 6 PM and 6 AM. Jesus was on the cross from 9 am to 3 PM. Now read John Ch 19 v 31. There was about 3 hours to take down his body, prepare it for burial, transport same to the tomb, replace the stone, and seal it. I hope this helps you to understand my reasoning. May the Lord bless, and keep you safe. Edwin Brain. I am disappointed that I have not so far had any help with this question. Allow me to suggest a possible solution. First of all look at Exodus Ch 12 vs 1-20. and also Leviticus Ch 23 vs 4-8. Now what are the salient points. The Lamb is to be selected on the 10 th day, but not killed until the 14 th day, why 4 days?, answer later on. The Passover continues on into the Feast of unleavened bread which is a feast of 7 days duration, with a Sabbath at each end. Now what does this teach me about the week in which our Lord allowed himself to be killed. That there are 2 Sabbaths in this week, the Sabbaths are at the start, and finish i.e. the first, and last, the alpha, and omega. speaking of the Lord God himself. what is leaven but a picture of sin, therefore no leaven indicates sinlessness, what is the duration of this feast, 7 days, what does 7 indicate, Divine perfection i.e. sinless perfection.. So the lamb points forward to the time when the Lord God himself, who is sinlessly perfect will lay down his life during a week which has 2 Sabbaths in it. Now let us see if the Gospel accounts indicate a 2nd Sabbath that week. Look first at John Ch 19 v 31. "for that Sabbath was a special Sabbath" why? special, could this suggest an additional Sabbath that week, well now look at Matt Ch 28 v 1. Here is a problem as most English translations read Sabbath, but have a look at the Greek text, and you will find that it is a plural noun i.e. Sabbaths. Now if we assume that Friday was the other Sabbath, and move the crucifixion back to Thursday, then we have 3 nights, but only some 61 hours, and still not 72 hours, however if you use Divine time measurement, and not human time measurement, i.e. "There was evening,and there was morning one day" and I can find 3 evenings, and 3 mornings then I will have 3 days. There is Thursday evening, Friday evening, and Saturday evening, Friday morning, Saturday morning, and Sunday morning 3 days. Now what about that 4 days I mentioned earlier, if our Lord was killed on Thursday, then what day is 4 days earlier, Palm Sunday of course. The Triumphal Entry and what else was also happening on that same day, every family in the land was choosing the lamb to be killed, and now that Jesus had presented himself to the Leaders of the Nation they had four days in which to examine him to see if there was any blemish, or spot, and when they could find none kill him. QED, I rest my case. Isn't it great being a Christian. May the Lord bless you all ,and keep you safe. Edwin Brain. |
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