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1 | What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? | Luke 6:16 | jeremiah1five | 241730 | ||
Using the above Scripture, I have asked Christians if they know what it was that Judas did that earned him the title of "traitor" and no one has been able to answer this question. It seems Christians call Judas a traitor or betrayer because they read it elsewhere in a commentary or someone else says it and they parrot those same words that Judas "betrayed the Lord," but when asked if they can identify the act or acts that earned him the name of traitor no one knows. | ||||||
2 | What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? | Luke 6:16 | justme | 241740 | ||
Jeremiah: After 81 posts it's time you filled out something about yourself in the update user info. As most of have done so it would be nice to know more about you. Judas in Scripture has been said it would have been better if he had never been born. The quilt he felt (not repentance) caused him to kill himself. Judas was in the inner circle of those closest to Jesus. For Judas to turn Jesus in to be killed for 30 pieces of silver, is surely a betrayer, a traitor, would you not agree? justme |
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3 | What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? | Luke 6:16 | jeremiah1five | 241751 | ||
PART ONE: You need to stop making guesses about my feelings that aren't true and making them public especially when you imply that I am unhappy with Lockman who is my host. THAT is where you have offended me and caused others to attack me based upon your lie. You brought undue attention upon me that was negative in nature. Jesus commanded us in what is called the Golden Rule of eye for eye to do to others as we want them to do to us. Shall I do to you what you have done to me? I would be perfectly in compliance with Christ's command and instruction. Would you appreciate that based upon your comments and replies that I think you are homosexual and make a supposition public on a forum such as this forum? Such a comment would bring undue attention to you, wouldn't it? You should be more careful with your mouth, that is, your keyboard for it reveals the content of your "heart." And if the content of your "heart" is to make comments that wrongly imply such and such about a Christian and member here, then that reveals the "heart" of a false accuser. The KJV word is "devil." Now, Jesus also gave command that if the one that offends me does not repent (not do it again) that I would be completely in compliance with the Lord's command and not forgive, and if not forgive, then there is no fellowship, for if you have a tendency to making false accusations and implications about a Christian and member then the Lord also instructs me to break interaction and fellowship until the offender brings their behavior into compliance with the Word (not forum guidelines for as a whole many "Christian" sites I have been at have guidelines that supersede and directly contradict God's Word in the behavior of God's people in private lives and in public.) Scripture does not teach us to give "blanket apologies." An offender must know exactly in what way they have offended so as to repent and not make the same offense again and quench the Holy Spirit's ministry of tempering the body together. So, now you know in what way you offended me and caused others to make further suppositions about my presence and character that were untrue. Surely a little leaven leavens the whole loaf. I came here and treated others good. I wanted to be treated good in return. My doctrinal positions are not denominational for I have no denomination. I prefer to be called a Biblical Christian for all my understanding iof the Bible comes from the Old and New Testament, the Holy Spirit, and myself. I would spend 16 hours a day (with sometimes lunch break if I wasn't fasting) at a table with my Bible and a Strong's and read under the anointing and many times hot tears roll down my cheeks as the Holy Spirit would use the very Word of God to cleanse and sanctify me, and this continued as I said 16 hours a day for roughly 9 months while I was being Biblically disciple. I stopped with commentaries many, many years ago because they would short-circuit my thinking and reasoning. I KNOW what I believe at many places does not square with traditional mainstream Christian thought, but when I come to such crossroads I prefer to trust what God may be speaking to me in that moment rather than parrot what others say the Scriptures say. Wasn't this the method of Martin Luther, and others in our historical Christian past? And I have been persecuted for my understanding of Scripture but I don't care. I am what I am, and I know what I know. Just because one fails to understand what I may say does not make me wrong or in error, especially since it is God who opens the mind or closes the mind, He either brings illumination or He allows people to stumble along in darkness. I plant and water, the Holy Spirit brings the increase. I know my call and the gifts, talents, and pounds the Lord has given me in my life. Yes, the Lord has spoken directly into me. But He has not done that with everyone, which is why I disagree with the so-called "great commission" due to the fact and truth of the teaching that we all have different and various callings with various gifts, etc., to accomplish that call to the Lord. If the apostle is represented as the thumb in the hand of the Lord it is very disturbing that the church leaders today teach that we are all thumbs and must preach about Jesus everywhere and every time because church leaders teach we have to follow this "great commission" dispite the fact of the teaching on the Body of Christ that the eye or the foot or the elbow must make every attempt at mimicking the function of the thumb. That is quite the heresy to teach that to every neophyte that the Lord baptizes into His Body, don't you think? We are not all mouths in the body of Christ. | ||||||
4 | What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? | Luke 6:16 | jeremiah1five | 241752 | ||
PART TWO: On the question of Judas Iscariot, a brother in whom most in Christendom as well as the world looks to with great disgust and hatred, I have found to be a man whose name is in the book of life, hand-picked by the Lord after spending all night in prayer with His Father "to be with him" (Mk. 3:14 implying intimacy), that Jesus' statement "better if he'd not been born" somewhat a peculiar statement indeed. If he had not been born he would not be "among the twelve" (as the Holy Spirit says many times in what I see as His attempt to drive home the fact that he was truly elect of God), he would not have covenanted for 30 pieces, would not have led others to arrest Jesus, there would be no midnight trial, no conviction and sentence of death, no beatings and crucifixion of the Lamb of God, no substitutionary death in my stead, no atonement and we would all still be in our sins without hope. Tell me, would it truly have been better? It wasn't the guilt that caused him to commit suicide, as you say, but something else. Jesus said "woe [grief] to that man that would betray Him, and grief is what Judas' actions brought him. But what caused him to commit suicide? It was his obedience to God's Law which required eye for eye and life for life. Did you forget what the Law says about a person under this Covenant that was complicit in the death of an innocent brethren? Yes, it is life for life. Judas SAW the Lord was condemned and this is what led to his repentance to try to buy back the life of Jesus with the same silver that brought His condemnation. If the priests were obedient to the Law themselves they would have accepted Judas' confession of sin and took him out back and stoned him, but what did they say instead? Matthew 27:4 (KJV) "Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that." In other words, they told him "YOU handle it!" And he did. Other than falling on a sword he chose the rope and hung himself in obedience to the Law of God which required life for life. Scripture in Matthew 27 also says Judas "brought forth fruits worthy of repentance" when he BROUGHT BACK the silver and tried to buy back the life of Jesus. When that didn't work he threw the money on the Temple floor (repentance completed - he rejected the mammon), and went out and committed suicide. Now, isn't confession of one's sins, repentance (180 degree turn), obedience to God's Law all elements of salvation in Christian, or should I say, Biblical doctrine? Indeed it is. It is on these grounds and others upon which I base my faith that Judas Iscariot was elect of God and saved, and will be among the great cloud of witnesses that will return with the Lord to reclaim a perfectly restored, changed, and resurrected body. |
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5 | What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? | Luke 6:16 | justme | 241774 | ||
Jerimiah: You indeed have a unique understanding about Judas. In sincere Christian love I mean no harm to you. If you think your study on the salvation of Judas is backed by Scripture, I personally have never heard or read such a conclusion. However, in the end judas like me and the rest of the world will face Jesus Christ, my prayer is He will welcome me into His heaven. There is nothing I have done to merit Heaven, it is the Grace, and Mercy, that Jesus paid the price for my sins, and I have repented, that permit me, a wretched sinner, th enter His heaven. I find no place in the Gospels that Judas did anything but feel sadness and guilt, and that friend is not repentance. Only the Father knows for sure where Judas is,, but the WORD indicates Judas is not with Jesus now. justme |
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6 | What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? | Luke 6:16 | jeremiah1five | 241776 | ||
No, sadness and guilt is not repentance. Returning the money is. Don't ignore this fact. It's right there in Scripture. It's not I that has a "unique understanding," I have a Biblical understanding. I am not rejecting the Scripture for a leaning on my own understanding as I do and say things that are right in my own eyes. And whatever is revealed in Scripture is for [us] and our children so that we may DO all the words of this law (Deut. 29:29). I'm sure others can read and see in the Scripture that Judas did repent [change his mind], except they don't have the courage or the Biblical constancy to contradict you in public. I run into that spirit all the time. |
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7 | What Did Judas Do to be called Traitor? | Luke 6:16 | justme | 241801 | ||
Jeremiah; I wish you would put something about your self in the Update Account. It gives some idea who we are talking to. After the many posts you have made it is long over due. justme |
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