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1 | Was the cross inevitable? | Luke 24:20 | Morant61 | 55978 | ||
Greetings Simchat! There are at least a couple of verses which address this issue: Rev. 13:8 and 1 Pet. 1:19-20. Rev. 13:8 - "All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world." 1 Pet. 1:19 - "but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. 20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake." Both of these passages indicate that Christ's death is rooted in eternity. It was never possible that there would be any other means of salvation other than the cross. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Was the cross inevitable? | Luke 24:20 | Simchat Torah | 55990 | ||
Shalom Tim; If it has been determined in eternity past the Yeshua be crucified, then Israel had no chance of accepting Yeshua as Messiah as they were predestined to reject him. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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3 | Was the cross inevitable? | Luke 24:20 | Morant61 | 56057 | ||
Greetings Simchat! Whether one believes that they were predestined to reject Him or that God timelessly knew that they would reject Him the end result is the same - they would reject Him. This is consistent with what Scripture says about the Jews and the Messiah. Acts 2:23 - "This man was handed over to you by God’s set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross." Acts 2:47 - "7 Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed. 28 They did what your power and will had decided beforehand should happen." And, of course, Romans 11 speaks of God's hardening of Israel that His purpose of election might stand: "For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all." Rom. 11:32 So, I would definitely say that the cross was inevitable and the only means that God has ordained for salvation. Paul makes it clear that the Law could not save us: Rom. 8:3 - "For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, 4 in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit." Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Was the cross inevitable? | Luke 24:20 | Simchat Torah | 56068 | ||
Shalom Tim; Some very interesting points. Would you say that God hardened the heart of Israel just as he did with Pharoah who would not allow Israel? Shalom Simchat Torah |
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5 | Was the cross inevitable? | Luke 24:20 | Morant61 | 56075 | ||
Greetings Simchat! If you review some of my past posts on election and free will, you will discover that I write from an Arminian perspective theologically. Thus, I don't believe that God is the ultimate cause of the hardening, but the individual's own free will. However, I do believe that God uses that individual's free decision to accomplish His purpose. In terms of the present discussion, Israel (because of her sinfulness) freely rejected the Messiah. God then used that free choice to accomplish His purpose of freely atoning for the sins of the world. So, I believe that Israel and Pharoah both had free choices, but they choose wrongly - which God timelessly knew that they would do. The important point for our discussion is that the cross was not a secondary plan or a fall back position, but the one means of salvation which God had ordained from eternity. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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