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1 | However, after Jesus finished His work o | Luke 23:43 | jcdm327 | 172909 | ||
I always thought the faithful souls of the old covenant went to Abraham's bosom. However, after Jesus finished His work on the cross, believers went to heaven. jcdm327 |
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2 | However, after Jesus finished His work o | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 172931 | ||
Not true. Heaven is where the faithful go after the second resurrection and the judgment. | ||||||
3 | However, after Jesus finished His work o | Luke 23:43 | DocTrinsograce | 172933 | ||
Dear Jcdm327, Quoting from Revelation: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. [i.e., the context is on the "new earth"] And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, COMING DOWN out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell WITH THEM, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God." (Revelation 21:1-3 ESV, my emphasis) Although it is a common misconception in popular theology that the eternal abode of the believer is heaven, John is pretty clear that God's ultimate goal is a restoration of creation for the redeemed. I wasn't aware that this notion was shared in the Campbellite tradition. In Him, Doc |
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4 | However, after Jesus finished His work o | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173014 | ||
In the Apocalypse (the book of Revelation) everything is written in signs (Revelation 1:1) so when John says he "saw a new heaven and a new earth...and there is no longer any sea" this is figurative language. "The new conditions did not signify abolition of the old order of governments, nor the formation of new secular and political powers. The EARTH thru-out the apocalypse referred to the place of nations, with particular reference to Palestine; and the placid or tossed SEA referred to the state of society; and the word HEAVEN denoted the existing authorities of government. The new heaven and the new earth, and the troubled sea, having passed away and represented as no more, indicated the changed conditions within the existing government and society to make them favorable for the prosperity of the cause of Christ and His church thru-out the empire. The old system of Judaism had been removed and the opposition of heathenism had been overcome; and the vision represented new conditions to surround the church in the changed world." (from The Book of Revelation by Wallace). In 2 Peter 3:13 we have the following "But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." Here we have the following meaning, "The future state of the saved will be spiritual, hence the only way man can be given a foresight of it is by likening it to what he understands and enjoys while living in a material home. The present abode is on the earth with its two heavens, the atmosphere and the starry region. Genesis 1:14-16 says the heavenly hosts were made to give light upon the earth, hence it is proper to mention those heavens in connection with the earth when referring to the home of mankind. But while the form of language is based upon mans present abode, in reality his eternal home will be spritual and one wherin shall dwell righteousness." E.M. Zerr Peter says this present heaven and earth "by the same word have been stored up for fire" and "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Hebrews 1:3 states that Christ is "upholding all things by the word of his power" when He withdraws that word the elements will literally come apart at the atomic level thus liqufing in fervent heat the old universe that now exists and the saved will go to their heavenly home and praise God day in and day out. |
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5 | However, after Jesus finished His work o | Luke 23:43 | srbaegon | 173027 | ||
Hello koscheiman, There is such a thing as applying typology too far, so that it becomes totally analogical. Many have fallen into this trap, and you would do well to do some critical and rational thinking about these things. A well-known hermeneutical principle is to retain the literal sense unless there is good and obvious reasons to do otherwise. Steve |
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6 | However, after Jesus finished His work o | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173188 | ||
The book of Revelation specifically says it is not literal. The fact that it is an apocalypse makes that obvious. | ||||||