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1 | Can man refuse God's invitation? | Luke 14:16 | reformedreader | 2849 | ||
angelbyte, If this verse refers to election, then election ceases to be election. Do we find the scriptures saying God invited us or elected us from the foundation of the world? Sam Hughey |
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2 | Can man refuse God's invitation? | Luke 14:16 | Chris | 2863 | ||
As I see it, Sam, He did both! You obviously know that the Bible says, "He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world" (Eph. 1:4) 'chose' being the same word for 'election.' But the Word also says, "For He(Jesus) was foreknown before the foundation of the world, but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you who through Him(Jesus) are believers in GOD" (I Peter 1:20,21) This tells us that the invitation through the blood of Jesus was foreknown before the foundation of the world and we are believers through this invitation. And, lets remember that GOD has never made a decision without knowing EVERYTHING! Election is great and freewill is great, because there is nothing that could happen that GOD does not know, and if He knows it He uses it to make His decisions! Obviously, I ride the fence on this one!! GOD bless!! | ||||||
3 | Can man refuse God's invitation? | Luke 14:16 | reformedreader | 2873 | ||
Chris, I do not see any mentioning of an invitation system to be saved by the unbeliever's choice in 1 Peter 1:20,21. I also have never seen any verses on election or foreknowledge associate themselves with an invitation to be saved. Now, one might want to see it there, but we cannot say they are there when they are not. Perhaps you could present more textually specific verses using the term "invitation" when associated with salvation. Also, be careful when riding fences, it could be both painful and harmful. Sam Hughey |
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4 | Can man refuse God's invitation? | Luke 14:16 | Chris | 3115 | ||
Yes Sam, but the problem with jumping off a fence is that you often can only see things from one side! As for a verse with invitation and election, how about Mat. 22:14? Now, I know you will ‘elect' to interpret this verse in another way; because, Mat. 22:14 CAN'T be talking about election or else election wouldn't work. But, in an effort to defend my position why don't we go over the entire passage. Mat. 22:1-14: 1 And Jesus answered and spake again in parables unto them, saying, 2 The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a certain king, who made a marriage feast for his son, Jesus compares this parable to the kingdom of heaven, so that would suggest that the king represents GOD and/or Heaven or Eternal Blessing. 3 and sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the marriage feast: and they would not come. Bidden is translated in NASB, "invited." Those that ‘were invited' would have been the Jews. Notice that those invited, ‘would not come" implies that those invited made the choice. ‘Servants could be the apostles or perhaps the Holy Spirit (HS is a servant, or a worker for, the kingdom of heaven, so this doesn't necessarily suggest inferiority to GOD; because, He is not specifically mentioned, and all three members of the Trinity are mutually subjected to one another.) either way it doesn't effect the interpretation of the passage. 4 Again he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them that are bidden, Behold, I have made ready my dinner; my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come to the marriage feast. Bidden is translated in NASB, "invited." The symbolism suggest reality with the marriage feast represent the marriage supper of the Lamb(debatable, not essential to the meaning). 5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his own farm, another to his merchandise; 6 and the rest laid hold on his servants, and treated them shamefully, and killed them. Notice that ‘they' made light of it; the passage says nothing about them being made to make light of it by another source. 7 But the king was wroth; and he sent his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned their city. Possible judgement Jesus spoke about coming upon Jerusalem? A.D. 70, no stone will be left upon another. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they that were bidden were not worthy. Bidden is translated in NASB, "invited." 9 Go ye therefore unto the partings of the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage feast. Bid is translated in NASB, "invite." 10 And those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was filled with guests. 11 But when the king came in to behold the guests, he saw there a man who had not on a wedding-garment: 12 and he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding-garment? And he was speechless. Notice, this could not signify election, because, GOD's election must be perfect; no one extra could be invited in, so the most likely interpretation is that the feast includes everyone who was invited, but those who chose (themselves) not to put on wedding clothes were not welcome. 13 Then the king said to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and cast him out into the outer darkness; there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. The same description Jesus gives the ‘lake of fire' were those who are not in Christ go for eternal damnation. (Please continue to the next note!) |
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