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1 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | BradK | 167813 | ||
Hi Mitch, First off, I would say, you tell me what it is all about! Second, what does the context of the entire Book of Acts, chapter 2 and then the verse deal with? You have to interpret this specific passage in light of the whole book (of Acts) and then in light of the rest of the revelation of scripture. Does your conclusion stand given the entirety of the Bible? Mitch, I'll offer this observation: You are making what is stated in Acts- particluarly chapter 2- doctrine for the entire Body of Christ. There is no support for that view in my estimation. Certainly not within Orthodoxy and then historically! The Church as a whole has not held this view. You really should consider that?! This is a very recent, i.e. 20th Century WOF invention! We'll have to simply part ways and disagree on this agreeably, brother. For what it's worth, I think we'd both be better served if we stuck to: 1. Areas of agreement in light of Romans 14:1; 2. Focus on Love as the greater of these things (1 Cor. 13:13). Hopefully we can both agree that Jesus is Lord and that His Word is inspired and that we are saved by grace through faith:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167850 | ||
If you think speaking in other tongues, and the baptism in the Holy Ghost is a 20th century thing, then why did Jesus tell them that they couldn't even leave Jerusalem and be a witness for him untill they recieved the baptism with the Holy Ghost? ( Luke 24:49 ) And notice these men are already born again, ( John 20:22 ) The reference I just gave in John shows us that these men recieved the HOly Ghost, at least a measure of it didn't they? Yet Jesus told them to wait in Jerusalem untill they were endued, untill they were immersed with the Holy Ghost. This is one easy place to see there is a secondary immersion into the Holy Ghost. Also you think its a modern teaching, what do you think happened in Acts chapter 19 when Paul shows up at Ephesus, and speaking to born again believers says " Have you recieved the Holy Ghost since you believed" ( Acts 19:2 ) There are two places, which show born again men and or women of God who recieve something after the new birth, which is the infilling of the Holy Ghost. How about Acts chapter 10, Peter is preaching and in verse 44 through the end of the chapter we see that the Holy Ghost fell on all those that heard the Word, and they began to speak in other tongues and magnify God. How about we go back to the day of Pentecost, Peter says in Acts Chapter 2 verse 39, speaking about the promise of this baptism, he says "The promise is unto you and your children, and as many are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. " This particular verse proves that it was not just for them, but is for all believers. Jesus said in Mark 16:17 that those that believe on him, ... shall speak with new tongues. Isiah 28:11 says that with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. In 1 Cor 14:18 Paul says ' I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all' And notice who he wrote to here, the church at Corinth, he had to write to them, to show them the proper way to speak in tongues, to do it in order, and to use it in their own prayer time. They were crazy about speaking in tongues, they wanted to do it constantly, everyone in the church wanted to stand up and give a tongue. Yet Paul says that he speaks in tongues more than the whole bunch of them. So no, unless the entire Bible was written in the 20th century, what I am saying is not new material. Just because someone doesn't believe something, doesn't make it new. Might make it new to them, but not new. Now as for what you said about the book of Acts, what does the context of the entire book deal with. Simply it deals with the 'Acts of the Apostles' or rather the Acts of the early church, because the first time we see Paul, he isn't an apostle. ( Acts 13:1 ) Paul was either a prophet , teacher, or both. So what Acts is showing us, is exactly the way the early church operated, and it is how we should operate today. From being immersed with the Holy Ghost, speaking with other tongues, to raising up the lame man as Peter did at the gate called beautiful ( Acts 3:6 ) To preaching the entire Word with boldness. Everything they did, is what we should be set on doing. My conclusion does stand given the entirety of the Bible. So in other words, the book of Acts, is the Acts of the early church, it is how we should be operating today. So since what I've said is scripture, its really hard to call it a 20th centrury invention. Hope this helped, Mitch |
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3 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | BradK | 167854 | ||
Hi Mitch, No, it actually doesn't help. Let's agree to disagree agreeably, my brother. This discussion is at a dead-end:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167857 | ||
There is one Truth brother, I'll never agree to disagree. If you wish to no longer talk about it, thats your choice. If you wish to not answer Scripture with scripture, you have the right to do so, and I will respect that. I'll not force you to discuss any part of the Word you wish to not discuss. God Bless, Mitch |
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5 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | DocTrinsograce | 167862 | ||
Dear Mitch, Persistence is positive trait in a young man. However, when you have cessationists and continuationists alike disagreeing with you, offering Scriptural support for their reasoning and soundly refuting your own, you are quite likely barking up the tree. As Brother Hank stated so succinctly, there are only two possibilities. I suggest that you drop the Word of Faith movement stuff, as that is tantamount to a denominational bias. Another possibility is to look out on the Internet for a Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, or some other Kenneth type forum. In Him, Doc |
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6 | What is to ask and receive the Holy Spir | Luke 11:13 | mitchm0521 | 167927 | ||
Please refer back to my previous post, I believe it was 167850, and you will see plenty of Scripture which shows you that the Baptism in the HOly Ghost, and being filled with the Holy Ghost, with speaking in other tongues, is not a new thing as some call it. Might be new to some people, but its definitly not new to the Church. Its exactly how they started off on the day of Pentecost. God Bless, Mitch |
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