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1 | Church Fathers? | Mark 7:9 | DocTrinsograce | 243645 | ||
"Are the writings of the fathers the rule of truth in doctrines of faith and in the interpretation of the Scriptures? We deny against the papists "I. Although from the preceding question we are already satisfied that the fathers cannot sit as judges in controversies of faith, yet because the papists frequently recur to them and are accustomed to obtrude upon us the consent of the fathers as a rule of truth, we must devote a separate question to this argument which is of the greatest importance in the controversies of the present day." --Francis Turretin, from his "Institutes of Elenctic Theology" (1992-1997) |
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2 | Church Fathers? | Mark 7:9 | EdB | 243648 | ||
I disagree in an effort to combat being in submission to Rome the reformers in fact did throw the baby out with the bath water The disciples were charged with making disciples and those disciples were likewise charged with making more disciples. The idea had it not been stopped made have converted the earth by now to Christianity. Two things interrupted that process man and greed. In an effort to cleanse themselves from Jews third and following generations devised a hatred for Judaism. This made us lose many aspects of worship that were rooted in the early Christian church fathers. Greed man wanted to control his own destiny, if you will, this included money matters, matters of marriage and divorce, heirs to political positions, heirs to thrones. Man wanted power so instead of making disciples man tried to gain power by controlling religion. They developed the concept of the Clergy and Laity, implying clergy had higher ranking in the grand scheme of things. All of this worked together to pit man against the what ever was over him. So man started to reject all authority and developed the idea he could decide for himself what God said. In the name of liberty man enslaved himself to secular authority rather than subjecting himself to religious authority. Hence we live in a social environment where God is mocked, churches are empty, and millions of babies are aborted. Yet we can not say this wrong unless we want to be labeled intolerant, often by mainline secular churches that claim reformed teaching. |
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