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1 | Character of Purpose | Matt 3:15 | Pilgrim2eternity | 194839 | ||
Character of Purpose Then Jesus went from Galilee to the Jordan River to be baptized by John. But John tried to talk him out of it. “I am the one who needs to be baptized by you,” he said, “so why are you coming to me?” But Jesus said, “It should be done, for we must carry out all that God requires.” So John agreed to baptize him. Matthew 3:13-15 There was plan. The plan needed to be carried out. But the plan had to have a buy in by the players And Jesus, walking by the Sea of Galilee, saw two brothers, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea; for they were fishermen. Then He said to them, “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.” They immediately left their nets and followed Him. Matthew 4:18-20 There was a plan for these two brothers and they followed it. Now their plan was completely different than another man, named John. But their purpose was no more, no less There was a divine plan and there is a divine plan for each one of us and we need to have the character to follow our purpose We need to hear the voice that says, “Follow Me” We love Him, because He first loved us. 1 John 4:19 Love is Enough, Daniel Stay Hungry |
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2 | Character of Purpose | Matt 3:15 | DocTrinsograce | 194848 | ||
Dear Daniel, Let's see if I understand you... It seems you use "divine plan" and "purpose" interchangeably. I'm also curious about how we can quantify the amount character that is sufficient. However, for the sake of this discussion, we'll set discussion of these points aside. If I understand your theology properly, a man with sufficient character may respond to God's divine plan. Indeed, only men with sufficient character can respond to God's divine plan, while men with insufficient character cannot. Therefore, God's divine plan for people with insufficient character is always thwarted. Furthermore, people with sufficient character may choose a contrary path, thereby also thwarting God's divine plan. It would seem, at best, God's plans are not really plans, more like hopeful possibilities or wishful thinking, for He is dependent on the cooperative participation of the people with sufficient character. God is impotent to insure that His plans are fulfilled. On the other hand, all people with character have the power to decide their own course at any time. If I've mis-characterized your assertions, please correct me. However, in theological terms we could summarize your doctrine as (1) the moral inability of people without character; (2) the sovereignty of people with character; and (3) the bondage of God's will. If I have it right, might we find some didactic Scripture to support your teaching? In Him, Doc |
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3 | Character of Purpose | Matt 3:15 | Pilgrim2eternity | 194898 | ||
Hello Doc, Unfortunately I don't think of myself of having a doctrine or theology and in fact, with all respect, I believe that we get far to caught up in such things. And I say that because most "Christians" don't have a solid understanding of the thread that binds the gospel together which I believe can be tied up in 1 John 4:19 "We love Him, because He first loved us." All we are must be founded on this assumption/certainty. This understanding must permeate every part of our existence. The lack of this in our lives is the exact distance we are from God's prefect will for us. You talked about the assumption you were making from what I had written, that the lack of character meant that the person couldn't live/respond inside the divine plan. When in fact as I see it, it is our "self" that ham strings the perfect. And so it is our lack of climbing over self and putting the "old man" on the cross. He gave us free will and so it up to us to step up to the plate and have the strength of character to do what it takes to love Him. Along the journey we may find ourselves having stumbled and all we can do is to fall on His mercy and grace and dust ourselves off You see if I have a theology or doctrine you can see it in my salutation; Love is Enough. As I see it His love for us with His Son going to the cross for us so that we might have eternal life is enough. And our response to this love is enough. It is enough for every situation that we find ourselves in. Something I find interesting is that you would ask me to back up your statement of my perceived 3 point theology. Since I can see that you know the Bible quit well with your 5574 posts @ the StudyBibleForum, I did not expect to see your perception of my note since my heart is nowhere near the twisted theology that you have figured out from my note. I post to about 60 people through out the workweek. I've been doing this for 3 years now and always at the core of my posts is this idea of Love is Enough. My heart is for Elohim. I yearn to love Him more all the time and I know that I'm so far from that place of overflowing love. I strive to give Him all I can and to pass that idea along my journey to fellow travelers. I will add the post that I had sent out the day before this one. Although you can go to my Yahoo group or Blog to see a lot more of where my heart is at, and I can assure you that it is with the purist of motive that I do this; to further the flock along. http://love-is-enough.blogspot.com/ http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/love-is-Enough/ Having said my say, I will bid you a good night and let you know that I do appreciate the discourse to allow me to keep my thoughts sharp and to stay the course. Love is Enough, Daniel Muddy Waters "I have always loved you," says the Lord. But you retort, "Really? How have you loved us? And the Lord replies, "This is how I showed my love for you: I loved your ancestor Jacob, but I rejected his brother, Esau, and devastated his hill country. I turned Esau's inheritance into a desert for jackals." Malachi 1:2-3 He made a choice to love Jacob and keep a covenant thousands of years: His divine purpose never wavering. He has made a choice to love us: His divine purpose never wavering. But we have chosen to muddy the water. We want our cake and eat it to. We want His divine guidance and blessing yet we chose to cut apart His word to suit our needs. When we have been given mercy and grace, we chose to share it on our terms and not His. We confuse, self-love with love of, love for, Elohim. We have put our own desires before His desires and have muddied the water He has given us love On whose terms to we choose to share it? He has chosen us What is our response? He is a Holy God Where is our respect? He is a perfect God Where is our faith? We love Him, because He first loved us. 1 John 4:19 Love is Enough, Daniel Stay Hungry |
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4 | Character of Purpose | Matt 3:15 | lionheart | 194917 | ||
Daniel, You are correct in your emphasise where love is concerned. 1 John 4:19, 1 Corinthians chapter 13. Love is central. Love energizes. Without it things are gonna get stale in a hurry. Everyone has a doctrine. Look at 1 Timothy 4:16 Paul tells us - watch your life and doctrine closely. Read this whole verse, it's vital. Go to 2 Peter 1:3-11. While the focus is narrow (Jesus) Ther are a number of aspects of that focus. This passage shows what we need to do in nurturing the relationship we now have with God. In Him, lionheart |
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