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1 | I have a problem with Mat 27:53 | Matt 27:53 | Victrix | 187698 | ||
The word used here is egerio, and means to "raise up." It is also used in Matthew 12:11; 17:7; and Luke 1:69 in conjection with not a literal ressurection but to "lift out" from a pit or to "get up" from the ground. The Greek writer Aelius Aristides in the second century talked about reports after an earthquake that caused a similiar occerence where the bodies were thrust out of their graves. Many Bible commentators have trouble explaining this Scripture, and several of them describe the opening of the tompbs by the earthquake and the exposing of bodies that had been buried. Colossians 1:18 explains that Jesus was the "firstborn from the dead." 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 explains that those with the heavenly hope would rest in deathlike sleep until the appointed time for Jesus to raise them up in immortality as is explained in 1 Corinthians 15. Also notice as Paul clearly explained the hope of the holy ones, he did not once quote the Scripture in Matthew, nor did any other Bible writer. |
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2 | I have a problem with Mat 27:53 | Matt 27:53 | mark d seyler | 187701 | ||
So then you are thinking that these were dead bodies that were tossed out of their tombs, and were brought into Jerusalem to be shown around town to people? These bodies would been unclean, and no Jew would want to have anything to do with them, except to quickly re-bury them. I don't really find this credible that they would tote them into town to be seen by many. Deathlike sleep? I don't think Paul actually said that. I guess I don't find this very convincing. Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | I have a problem with Mat 27:53 | Matt 27:53 | Victrix | 187704 | ||
1 Corinthians 15:20 states: "However, now Christ has been raised up from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep [in death." And at 1 Thessalonians 4:14, 15: "For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep [in death] through Jesus God will bring with him. For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]." So who entered into Jerusalem, a considerable time after the earthquake had occured, namely after the ressurection of Jesus' death? From what was written it is understood that the bodies did not have life, so Matthew had to have been talking about people who visited the tombs and brought the news of the events to Jerusalem. |
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4 | I have a problem with Mat 27:53 | Matt 27:53 | mark d seyler | 187707 | ||
And where does it say that they didn't have life? Who entered in? Those that were raised. Not those who saw them, but the very ones themselves. Love in Christ, Mark |
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5 | I have a problem with Mat 27:53 | Matt 27:53 | Victrix | 187710 | ||
The explanation I gave would be in harmony with Scripture. Otherwise how could it be said that Jesus was "the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep [in death]." - 1 Corinthians 15:20. And again in Colossian 1:18: ". He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things." Jesus was the first of the saints, or holy ones to be raised from the dead, and even Paul understood that after he was to die there would be a period of time that he would have to wait before he was raised to heavenly life with Jesus. |
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6 | I have a problem with Mat 27:53 | Matt 27:53 | mark d seyler | 187712 | ||
Hi Edwin, Your first point is why I tend to thing that these who rose died again. Jesus was the firstfruits, but not the first to be raised from the dead. He was the first to rise to eternal life, to my understanding. Paul nowhere teaches soulsleep. Paul clearly shows his expectation that he would immediately be with Jesus upon his death, tho he may need to wait for physical resurrection. My difficulty with your view is that these people came out of their tombs, and went into the city. Unless you are thinking that they were carried in, or washed in by a flood, or something like that, they need to be alive. And since the plain reading makes great sense if you simply look at it with the simplest understanding, at least to me, that's what I think I'll stick with. Sure is interesting stuff! Love in Christ, Mark |
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7 | I have a problem with Mat 27:53 | Matt 27:53 | ebrain | 187907 | ||
Thank you Mark for all your posts on this subject, perhaps you could have a look at what follows, and let me have your comments. Every blessing Edwin. Regarding this passage of Scripture, I would like to suggest the following scenario. At the time of our Lords death, or shortly thereafter, verse 52 happened, but that verse 53 did not occur until after our Lord's resurrection, my reason for saying this is influenced by an experience I had many years ago when I regained consciousness in Hospital, some nine days after being badly injured in a road crash. My first thoughts were, where am I? what is this place? what am I doing here? where are my family, do they know?.. what day is it? I also wanted something to drink, and eat,, and so on. It must have been something like that for the saints who were raised on that day. We do not know where the graves were, they could have been some distance away from the holy city, it was also only about three hours, or less from the start of the Sabbath, and the imposition of "the Sabbath days journey". You will know that when our Lord Jesus raised people back from the dead, that He said "give them something to eat", also when He Himself rose from death, that one of the first things He did was to ask for food. When a saint came out of his grave, it would not be long before he would meet someone, and be given answers to any questions he might ask. I am sure that uppermost in his mind would be a desire to be reunited with his family, his loved ones, he would most likely to want food, and drink. You will also know that when ever Jesus cleansed a leper, He told him to go and show himself to the Priests, it is not unlikely in my opinion that the those with whom the saint made contact suggested that he do the same, but not of course until after the Sabbath.. Jesus as we know rose very early on the morning of the first day of the new week, much before, I feel certain, the time the saints went into the holy city. Now we have the problem of the "first fruits", have a look please at Rom 8:23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. 1 Cor 15:20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. 1 Cor 15:23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, It is clear to me that this can only refer to Christians, and not the saints described above, as they were OT, saints, the same as john the baptist who never claimed to be part of the bride of Christ, but a friend of the bridegroom. |
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