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1 | the elect | Matt 24:22 | mark d seyler | 150133 | ||
Some observations on the material presented by www.revelationcommentary.com: This web site is presented by the same people as Sola Group It did not take me long to notice numerous errors as I read this material. Please be advised to compare anything you read with scripture. Always study scripture for yourself, turning to commentators only to supplament your own individual study. Da 7:21 “I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;” “And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.” Them “”As with Daniel 7, these final verses promise the saints deliverance. Specifically, the Lord will return and gather the saints together to eventually set up a kingdom on earth. The dependency of the Lord on Daniel’s material is evident (Matt 24:15).”” Me This site that Kalos is promoting is dedicated to deseminate a modified “mid-trib” rapture view, or “pre-wrath”, claiming that the church will undergo the “wrath of Satan”. This passage is offered to attempt to prove that view What reason do we have to think that the saints, the elect, spoken of here are the church, which had not been revealled at the time Jesus taught these things? The Saints, the elect, referred to would be the very same ones always referred to up until this time, Israel. They have assigned meanings to words that suit their interpretation, rather than using the plain, natural meanings one would use if simply reading the passage in view of the audience, the context, the historical placement, and the position within God’s overall revelation. 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. |
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2 | the elect | Matt 24:22 | Mommapbs | 150651 | ||
Mark - I agree with you on the elect here being Israel, yet please explain where you see the church in all this? Thanks! mommapbs |
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3 | the elect | Matt 24:22 | mark d seyler | 150661 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, It's good to hear from you! As far as I can tell in my studies, the 70th week, which we commonly (mistakenly, in my view) refer to as the "Tribulation", is meant for Israel. I do not see the church spoken of in any of the scriptures that refer to the 70th week. The church has been promised not to undergo the wrath of God, and the wrath of God begins immediately after the beginning of the 70th week. Myself, I see the church in Revelation 7:9-10 "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb." I think the seals are opened immediately following the beginning of the 70th week, that the church is removed and the 144,00 Jews are sealed, and the judgment of God begins. Luke 21:36 "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." There is much more detail I can give if you wish me to, either on this forum, or privately (you have my e-mail). Again, I enjoy hearing from you, and God bless you! Love in Christ, Mark |
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